sea 04 2016

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Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

When I'm walking my dog sometimes I'm watching the landscape and the houses. I noticed that several new antennas from Sky were with a different LNB, with a red tip. Researching the subject I found out that the Sky has been using this new LNB in new installations and also comes by replacing the old clients LNB in technical visits. Now they're putting this Broadband Dual Lnb, the Telesystem or WNC.

As a subscriber of Sky for more than 15 years, I still remember that the first was a Universal single LNB, with a single output. Was replaced by a Universal double when passed to a plan with two points. At the time I asked the technician what it would be like if I had more points and he explained that there were up to LNBs 4 outputs, but the Sky wore only the doubles and were more than two points using dividers.

I noticed that the Sky has also been using an LNB STO Red. This has the advantage of sending both channels polarizations (horizontal and vertical) using the same cable (all frequencies together). It's good for HDTV facilities Plus where you cannot pass a second cable, because simply put a splitter by the decoder to feed both tuners with the same cable. Furthermore, the signal can be divided easily to various points with simple high-frequency dividers, dispensing Switch 3×4 I showed in the previous article.

But now I hear the Sky also stopped with the LNB STO and is making the new facility only with the Broadband Dual Lnb. On the one hand, is a disadvantage, for he is like the Universal, having two outputs that polarized, and send the signal of vertical or horizontal channels, but not both at the same time, so the Sky Plus HDTV back need two cables. Furthermore, in installations with 3 or more points (or 2 points being at least one HDTV Plus) You must use the Switch 3×4.

The reason for the change, It is speculated to be the new satellite that Sky should throw even in 2016. The Intelsat 32e (Is-32e) should be called Sky Brazil-1 and will be used exclusively by Sky. Would 81 transponders in the KA and Ku bands. In Ku-band Sky could use up to 60 transponders, sufficient capacity to bring 3D channels or with 4 k resolution, for example. The Broadband Dual Lnb It covers a larger quantity of frequencies and, therefore, I'd be ready for the new satellite.

On my installation, the technician replaced the old universal Dual LNB for the Broadband Dual Lnb to install HDTV Plus point, What also made necessary the passage of new cables and the installation of Switch 3×4.

It is clear that Sky should not use additional frequencies until you change the LNB of the entire installed base. Possibly will leave these frequencies for new channels and go doing the Exchange as package changes occur.

Remember that a change of such proportions has already occurred in the past, not with relation to the LNB, but with respect to the access cards. On the occasion, the Sky needed to change the encryption used, that had been broken. The solution found was to update the base gradually, first for those who had the Premiere football packages, After Telecine, and so on until all cards change the installed base and put all channels with new encryption.

It is worth noting that when there are only two points (or a single HDTV Plus point), the Broadband Dual Lnb works without need Switch 3×4, because both outputs can polarize vertically or horizontally regardless. I've read reports that a Switch 3×4 is required with the new LNB, what might be a result of some installers be putting the key even when the Subscriber is only two points.

With respect to the signal, There is also a considerable improvement when installing the Broadband Dual Lnb, that seems to have a greater sensitivity to the ancient Universal LNB from Sharp and other brands.

Confirms some pictures of Broadband Dual LNB Telesync for antennas 60 a 90 cm when the Sky:

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky, on its packaging

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky, on its packaging

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky, on its packaging

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky, on its packaging

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky, on its packaging

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky, on its packaging

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky, on its packaging

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky, on its packaging

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky, on its packaging

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky, on its packaging

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  1. 1

    Friend, When using the plus shr26 with dual lnb and the switch, have to leave two key cables directly to the Sat in 1 and 2 without divider ? Because the damage to sat 2 searching for channels. The switch receives 3 cables, 2 the satellite and 1 terrestrial antenna.

    1. 1.1

      Olá Rafael,
      Yes, need to leave two key cables, one for each input of the decoder, without divider.

  2. 2

    Two outputs go to plus no splitter, but the other outputs may have dividers, If you're slim or zapper?

    1. 2.1

      Cannot also. You can't use divider to the Sky, except if the LNB STO, that Sky is replacing by Broadband Dual LNB.
      If you need more than the four outputs of the 3 Key×4, need to place a second key 3×4, linked in two ways from the first.
      The point is that each tuner (in each decoder) can switch to horizontal or vertical polarization, Depending on the channel being tuned. If you put a splitter, the tuners will conflict if a want to tune to a channel of horizontal polarization and the other want to tune to a channel of vertical polarization.

  3. 3

    Olá Skooter, a few days ago a technician came and changed my STO LNB for a Broadband Dual LNB, but on the way out he put a antenna switch 3×4 and 10 then put one more meters to connect the HD Plus. But in none of these two keys my HD Slim works, some horizontal TPs are caretaker and if I try to turn on only the Slim looks like the LNB does not receive enough power and won't turn on, so I need Plus attached to the system. Is there anything I can do to connect my HD PLUS + HD SLIM in this Broadband Dual LNB? Remembering that I have 2 comutadoras 3 keys×4 the technician installed. I don't want to have to install another LNB antenna STO only for Slim. Thank you for attention.

    1. 3.1

      It's strange that call, for only 2 a single key points would be enough. Are two cables coming out from the LNB to the first key? And two cables coming out of the first key to the second key?

      1. 3.1.1

        Thanks for the reply Skooter. Yes, leave 2 LNB cable broadband and enter a 3 switch×4, that's where he gets more 3 cables, 1 for the HD Slim and 2 for other 3 switch×4 of more 2 for the HD Plus. The equipment Plus works perfectly with any kind of connection, but the Slim always loses some TPs in horizontal and signal so multiple channels are not tuned. Thank you for your attention.

        1. Skooter

          This second key seems to me unnecessary, could connect directly two cables of the first key in the decoder. But it was still to be working.
          The decoder Slim is configured to use broadband LNB?

          1. Rodrigo

            It's like that second serve key of “Amendment” for the cables that go to the HD Plus, I'm going to delete this key and try the Slim independent, without the Plus in the schema. Work?

          2. Skooter

            Hard to say, It's about to be working as well as it's, Although not the ideal.
            The decoder Slim is configured to use broadband LNB?
            The signal is strong in both?

          3. Rodrigo

            Yes, configured for wide band, I've done that reset with code 02468 also. The TPs usually stay between 95 a 120.
            The Plus signs are also in this average, but always with a tuner a bit stronger than the other when I check the rate of the signs. You need to wait for some time after the satellite configuration or should run immediately if I had everything right? (I'm sorry so many questions but you are helping me to clear my head). Thank you very much Skooter.

          4. Skooter

            After adjusting the decoder usually stay a few minutes receiving satellite Info, but all of a sudden be ready.
            Everything seems to be okay with your installation. Maybe a problem in decoding slim or even in any of the two keys?
            If the Plus can record one channel and tune in any other, then the LNB must be working properly.

  4. 4

    Hello! please, can you clarify if the old universal LNB; use it to use on my antenna. He has four outputs

    1. 4.1

      I think the old universal LNB is still working, but I cannot say until when.

  5. 5
    Charles Alves

    So I have a dual LNB Sky that long range , just a question I can't find the clear signal he !
    It only works with the Sky ?

    1. 5.1

      Yes, the sellers say that only works with the Sky.

  6. 6

    Good night! Get me out a doubt, Maybe you don't understand correctly. I have the unit SKY HDTV that old model, boxy. If you want to place this Broadband Dual LNB, I'm going to need to pull another cable for my device or just what is enough.

    1. 6.1

      Which LNB you currently have? And the decoder is the Plus?
      Plus you need two cables so you can watch one channel and record another (or write two) at the same time.

      1. 6.1.1

        Good morning!

        Use 1 Sharp Universal Twin, It's not the Plus, is the older model, one that has a 500 GB HD inside.

        My interest is only on TV.

        1. Skooter

          If you already use with only a cable with Sharp Universal Twin, You can stick with the double wide band. For watching TV a cable is enough.

          1. SBravia

            Cool, It all worked out.

            Seizing the opportunity, I use a diplexer to filter the digital tv signal + satellite, If you want to connect only 1 TV with the digital signal, proceed as devo?

            Grateful for the attention

          2. Skooter

            Let me get this straight, you have a key 3×4 next to the antennae signal Sky blending with the basic cable and a diplexer separating them next to your TV, it is?

            If that, to connect another TV you can pull a cord from one of the 3 key-free outputs×4 and call in another diplexer, using only the terrestrial antenna output to turn on TV and letting the free Sky.
            I believe that as an alternative to the diplexer you can also use a DC filter.

          3. SBravia

            Excuse, I mean call 1 TV, because that Dilpexer already has another linked.

  7. 7

    Actually is the following: My SKY Receiver and TV in the room, are connected by a Diplexer (single cable) and that same cable, I wonder if for example, If I put a high divider in the middle of it, just to send the TV signal to my room, that's where I want to pull the Digital TV signal, If I'm going to have a loss of satellite signal quality, due to this half-way splitter.

    Obs: The cable is inside a pipe, passing through my room and go to the room, only due to lack of space in the pipe, I can't spend another TV cable, so I would use the same cable.

    1. 7.1

      Has dividers -3 loss, 5dB, so I guess you will have some loss on the Yes satellite signal.
      Furthermore, you need another diplexer or DC filter between the cable and the second TV.

      1. 7.1.1

        Conclusion: Would then use 3 Diplexers and 1 Splitter.

        1. Skooter

          If you already have 2 diplexers that's right.
          I can't guarantee it's going to work, I never called so, but theoretically it's supposed to work.

          1. SBravia

            Beauty, Thank you very much for your time and patience.

  8. 8

    Good afternoon….I have a old sky plan with 6 appliances, 2 HDTV plus , 2 Zapper and 2 Slim…in my case if I change this broadband lnb, I would have to have 8 exits to the right receivers?(4 for the 2 plus + 4 for the 2 Zapper and slim) then I would need to have 3 comutadoras 3 keys×4 correct?? Sera that will work without much loss in signal???

    1. 8.1

      Yes, I believe that the scheme of installation is the same. Signal loss believe that has not, because each receiver will be sending current to feed the 3 keys×4 and amplify the signal.

  9. 9

    Skooter, can you help me. I have a SKY receiver Model S12, eventually take this receiver for Beach. On the site I have a LNB STO, but now the SKY is changing to broadband. If I switch to the universal model, comes 2 antenna cables to receiver, but the receiver has only one entrance to the cable. Is there a key that I can use, to come 2 cables, and through this piece go a simple cable to the receiver?

    1. 9.1

      I don't know this receiver. He does not write, some?
      In this case you just need a Universal LNB cable or broadband to the receiver. The receiver switches the LNB polarization as the channel that you are watching.

      1. 9.1.1

        Skooter, the digital receiver thomson S12B model if u see on Google, you will see that has only one output. I think the only change tbem LNB on the edge to universal will solve. When I take the receiver to trip him of the error, saying you have to do an update on my antenna. From what I've read, could use a DiSEQ key where 2 cables and forward will only cable. Currently I have STO Triax LNB.

        1. Skooter

          But all the receivers that do not write that I know has only one entry. You wouldn't have two. The recording has two when are two tuners (to record a channel and watch another, or record two channels).
          The Sky must have updated the software of receptors to give this error message and force change the LNB.
          Se você trocar o LNB e mudar a configuração no receptor para Faixa Larga deve funcionar.
          Mas já que é para trocar, acho melhor você já mudar para o Faixa Larga, pois o Universal deve parar de funcionar em algum futuro próximo.
          Eu acho que você não precisa de nenhuma chave. As duas saídas do LNB polarizam tanto horizontal quanto vertical. Para até dois receptores (ou um receptor com dois sintonizadores), não há necessidade de chaves.

          1. Ricardo

            Good morning, see the broadband LNB works on a frequency greater, each output that the LNB has is different, a is horizontal, e outra vertical. Therefore, eu acho que precisaria de alguma chave ou peça para chegue só 1 cabo até o receptor

          2. Ricardo

            Vou precisar dessa chave comutadora. See that one side is SAT IN and SAT IN 18V and 13V on RX1 turn digital receiver, e altero no receptor as configs para uso da faixa larga 😀

  10. 10

    Skooter, my friend has this lnb there and has a slim hdtv and a hdtv plus. But as he only has one cable connected in plus, You can't record a channel and watch another. What he should do in this case? Exchange for an lnb outputs more?

    antenna: http://i.imgur.com/1xUV6Lb.jpg

    LNB in 4 outputs that he has saved: http://i.imgur.com/11LoJNI.jpg

    1. 10.1


      He needs to put a Switch 3×4.

  11. 11

    Good Night Skooter, I have one in my house a sky with dual lnb antenna wide band, with a switch 3×4 connecting the receiver, a hdtv plus and other hd. It so happens that I made some changes recently in the cables in my house and so I had to put some “amendments” with those connectors that thread in each side, and after that I was in trouble, because it was only signed in “Sinton. 2”. Then, I went in and unplugged one of the cables connected in the lnb and have sign in sinton. 1 and in sinton. 2, but one of the transponder, the last of the H, was reset. You know more or less what would be the problem and if there is any problem with letting the way it is.
    I thank.

    1. 11.1

      I can't tell you what would be the problem. The signal was very low before?
      Leave only one antenna cable to the 3 key×4 lead to trouble, you won't be able to tune to a channel with horizontal polarization and another with vertical polarization at the same time.

      1. 11.1.1

        Boa tarde Skooter.
        Initially I would like to thank you for your attention. In fact the signal was very good, was 100. It would have happened by now something similar again and the problem was with the lnbf, because after replacing returned to normal. But not even a year ago I switched, What I'm using now and relatively new. De fate, hdtv receiver plus the channels are normal, the other receiver are not tuning some channels. Think it will be necessary to request a concert by sky. Thanks a lot mate.

  12. 12

    Boa tarde Skooter, I have two points of sky , a slim and a hd zapper, There's a NLD sdu installed, and there's the sky cable 1 1 connected to each appliance. I want to know if, When changing to double universal lnb ,need some cable or not? Thank you.

    1. 12.1

      Good afternoon, Rafael,
      Both the slim as the zapper only have a tuner, so if the current divider is near the LNB, probably not change cabling. Only the two cables are connected directly to the LNB.

  13. 13
    Fernando Grimaldi

    Hello dear Skooter.
    Was trocarada the antenna here at home to the new SKY satellite.
    Good, the configuration of PLUS and two ZAPPER in my combo (TOTAL HD 2016) no longer STO and Yes WIDE BAND.
    When the two technicians are gone, Mexi, I went through, I did everything in my PLUS and even now can't make two programs simultaneously; the duo also MEMORY doesn't work anymore.
    I called the technician and he said the SKY is doing this because of the SKY MEDIA CENTER that not even here yet (only has, as its website says, in São Paulo and Belo Horizonte).
    I contacted the 10611 and questioned about the functionality of these two features not (record 2 programs simultaneously and double memory). The answer was that with broadband, the two cables in the PLUS one for SD channels now serve and another for HD and the services have been discontinued and that I should look for other display programs schedule.
    Again I was moving in and I found that really was what she said: I took a cord and only the SD channels picked, After I reversed and only a few HD worked.

    Before a cable just went down to the appliance, being that there was a divider where a tip went to SAT entry 1 and another tip for SAT 2.
    And the setting was STO.

    Now down two cables, one for each SAT. And the setting is WIDE BAND.

    How do I re-record again simultaneously?

    Please, someone guide me.

    And the signal Rate, the tuner 2 points V(vertical) and (H)(speed) all RESET.

    1. 13.1

      Olá Fernando,

      I didn't know this feature of Double Memory, but I tested it and it worked.
      The recording of two channels at the same time keeps running.
      This Sky Media Center I don't know. Until I looked here but I don't understand how it's going to work.
      The configuration on my Broadband also decoders.

      What your package and which version of the software?
      Here the FULL MOVIE HD COMBO package 2017
      Original Version: 0x8330
      Software: 0x8553, Qui 9/7, 2:20

      Signal rate both tuners get high values in vertical and horizontal.

      If they changed something, not affected me yet.

  14. 14

    Good night Skooter,

    I have the unit HDTV Plus and the problem is that I live in apt is it was only possible to pass a cable to device, today as they made a Division and called two cables in the apparatus, with this new LNB really need two cables, even if no longer work the simultaneous recording?

    1. 14.1

      Good night Menoli,
      My HDTV Plus works if I leave with one cable only, but without the resources to record two channels at once or watch one channel and record another.

      1. 14.1.1

        Thanks for replying, so I'm going to have to keep it that way until you change, because 2 cables for the conduit that the MRV left impossible to pass.

  15. 15

    Good afternoon Scooter you know tell me if I can use the Dual LNB high band(Sky) pirate devices???

    1. 15.1

      Good evening Carlos,
      Not tell you.

  16. 16
    Alan Adams

    Good morning,
    There've been times staff receiving the message from SKY : The SKY need to upgrade technology in your free House call 0800 and enter the code 55 live in condo and the antenna is shared for all. This morning was showing the message searching satellite signal in 1. What should I do? My receiver is the Zapper HD.

    1. 16.1

      Good afternoon Alan,
      Have you called in 0800 and informed the code 55?

  17. 17

    After changing the LNB to broadband, need to do anything else as redirect antenna or change some setting in the HDTV receiver PLUS ?

    1. 17.1

      Yes, the decoder there is an option to select the type of LNB. You need to select “Wide Band”.

      1. 17.1.1

        Good night skooter. I am also with this problem how do I change this setting in the decoder.

        1. Skooter

          Good day Frederick.
          Try going into Menu-Settings and help > > adjustments-> Sat. and antenna-> Repeat satellite configuration
          In “Type of installation”, Select “Wide Band”.

  18. 18

    Bom dia Skooter,

    I have the plus hdtv, I moved into an apartment where the building already has a cable system, but there's only one cable to fit, in this case I can only call on one of the SAT inputs, not having to use the feature to record a channel and watch another at the same time. To have again this feature you need to pull a new cable it off for ?

    or I can call a divider inside this cable to connect on SAT 1 and the other way out in 2 ?? in this case work !? would have to change the configuration of the appliance to STO ?
    My this on broadband.

    thank you!

    1. 18.1

      Good morning Marcelo,
      Do you know what type of LNB the building uses? If the Sto you can by the splitter.
      If it is Universal or broad band would have to pull another cable from the 3 key×4 (or equivalent) more next.

  19. 19

    wave !!
    Acquire a shared sky point, installed in an antenna that was already in the building, I get the message it is necessary the technological updating of the ANTENNA (What's not getting some ”in your home”) I have to buy an antenna and install ? or it can be pointing or something else ?!
    thank you

  20. 20


  21. 21

    Bom dia Skooter. Indicates request to Exchange in the SKY of the SDU for the wide band? Going to make anything better in the signal? Or is it just for future updates?

    1. 21.1

      Good morning Raphael,

      I never had the Sto, I spent Universal direct wide band. In my case the signal improved a little, Maybe the new LNB has more sensitivity or the former was already in trouble. But nothing that will make a difference in practice, except maybe in time of rain.

      The update will be mandatory when the Sky pass using the frequency bands that only has Broadband, What I believe they won't do until the entire base is updated, or at least the part of the base that has channels that will be on the new frequencies.

      Apparently they are already taking advantage of the technical visits to make the switch. But for now I think you're not missing anything to be with the Sto.

  22. 22

    Thank you for the information.
    If all people are propuzessem to help each other the world would be much better!

  23. 23

    Bom dia Skooter,

    I have a doubt, I hope you can help me. I live in for, and this is with the LNB Installation SDU those reds, and there are several keys to split cables, You should know how.
    I can't call a tecnico SKY because my point is shared, I'm not a Subscriber.
    Own a Zapper decoder. If I just change the LNB STO by Broadband will work? Or will have to be changed every installation of cables? I'm a little anxiety in relation to this.
    Detail: only I use the SKY here in the building.

    Thank you!

    1. 23.1

      Good morning Philip,
      I don't know what these dividers. If they are simple dividers, and you change the LNB STO by broadband and change settings in the Zapper should work, because he will polarize according to the channel that you are watching.
      But if I ever have another Subscriber will give problem, for the correct installation of Broadband LNB's with two cables.

  24. 24

    Good afternoon, Skooter,
    I have a Broadband LNB antenna and a Sky HDTV Plus. What should I do in time to install?
    I've tried to pull only one LNB cable, connect to the switch 3×4 and then pull two cables to the receiver and pulling two wires directly from the LNB to the receiver and not getting success in any of the two attempts, simply not no sign of life.
    I only have success when pull only a direct cable to receiver LN, but then I can't record another channel.
    I ask your help.


    1. 24.1

      Good night Vitor,
      If you only have a receiver, can pull two LNB direct cables. Otherwise it is two cables of the LNB to the 3 key×4 and two key cables 3×4 Pro receiver.
      If it's not working so it may be a problem with any of the equipment or in the cable itself, or the receiver configuration.

  25. 25

    Good morning skooter, I wonder if the sky media center works in a double wide band, because I have it on SWM (that is the new sky lnb is deploying the antennae), but I also have a dual broadband antenna, and I wonder what the media center works in a wide range. (No case, only the main media center device, and devices not minis).
    And if it works, I have to pull 2 dual cables for average broadband center (media center has only one entry, and it writes simultaneously another, like plus, only the plus has 2 inputs)?
    Thank you!

    1. 25.1

      Good morning Yago,
      This can't answer. I don't know exactly how it works the Sky Media Center. I imagine that the decoders to communicate with each other by the same antenna cable, then the LNB must be some preparation for it, but I can't tell which has.

  26. 26

    Bom dia Skooter, your channel is very enlightening, congratulations. I have problem with my sky signal. I made the switch to universal lnb your did all procedures and the system recognizes that it's okay. It turns out that I'm not tuning in a few 24 sd and hd channels. Appears in these message channels ” looking tuner signal 2. My signal rate and 55% I feel 1 and 60% feel 2. The may have occurred?

    1. 26.1

      Good morning Luiz,
      I know that at some point the Universal LNB would get all channels, but I don't know if this has already occurred.

  27. 27

    Bom dia Skooter, I have a HD receiver | Slim from Sky to take to the beach and there must update the LNB to the double wide band. The receiver is already configured for wide band. My question is how to make the connection, from what I have researched I have to pull 2 LNB cable, connect a switch 3×4 e ligar o receptor numa das saídas da chave. Precisa necessariamente ser dessa forma ou se eu somente trocar o LNB e continuar usando 1 cabo vai funcionar? Do jeito que está (LNB antigo) alguns canais não funcionam (normalmente o HD), fica uma tela preta. Abs.

    1. 27.1

      Good night Fabiano,
      Você pode ligar um cabo direto do LNB Faixa Larga ao Receptor HD Slim.

  28. 28
    Mério Joaquim Dutra Júnior

    Boa tarde Skooter!
    I'm having a problem.
    Tenho um ponto em minha roça com um aparelho slim e um sky live.
    Atualmente uso um LNB SDU Triax que leva um cabo até proximo aos aparelhos onde uso um divisor pra alimentar os dois.
    Lá não existe a possibilidade de passar outro cabo e preciso do aparelho da Sky livre por conta da globo que o slim não tem.
    Lá também não tem sinal de tv aberta.
    Question I saw an image of a scheme on the internet where uses the switch and the first two exits (and rx1 rx2) Enter a key and becomes just a cable and Web to recipients fall into two cables.
    It would be a key disecq?
    Know me know if the switch accepts this connection and after the disecq key can I put a splitter?

    1. 28.1

      Good afternoon Mério,
      I haven't seen any schema that allow dividers with Broadband LNB.

  29. 29
    Mério Joaquim Dutra Júnior

    Boa tarde Skooter!
    I have a unit sky slim installed in place along with a free sky there have a LNB STO TRIAX cable until further down where to equipment where there is a watershed that feeds the two devices.
    There does not exist the possibility to pass another cable and I need free sky on the globe.
    I saw in a picture on the internet that uses the key switched and the first two exits connect in a key turning in a cable and then a new key divides the signal.
    Can I use a key disecq d after a splitter?
    Will it work?
    Or can I put a direct splitter?

  30. 30
    Mério Joaquim Dutra Júnior

    This is the image you mentioned.

    1. 30.1
      Mério Joaquim Dutra Júnior

      Skooter got two devices installed in a place where there's no tv signal, These devices are a slim hd and a free sky, where the antenna has an LNB STO TRIAX and down a cable to next to equipment and there is a divider that feeds both devices and it is not possible to pass another cable, can I use a key disecq calling two key switched outputs and next to equipment using a splitter?

  31. 31

    Friend. Tenho um único ponto em minha casa que se origina de outra residência de minha família. Eu comprei o UnB faixa larga e instalei. Só que vários canais HD ficam procurando sinal ou tela preta. De vez em quando pegam. O que eu faço? Troco antena?

    1. 31.1

      The signal is strong? The alignment is correct?
      Na troca do LNB você ajustou o posicionamento dele?

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    William santos da Silva

    Skooter, Good morning. Antes da mudança da Sky eu usava o SDU com um cabo e um divisor no final do receptor já instalado pelo técnico. Agora preciso usar um LNB universal e o problema é que em casa não consigo passar mais um cabo na tubulação. Eu comprei uma chave comutadora e liguei as duas saidas do lnb em cada entrada da chave e o cabo único direto pro receptor. As vezes algum transponder fica zerado e eventualmente a imagem de alguns canais ficam preta e preciso reiniciar o receptor. Preciso obrigatoriamente passar 2 cabos ou depois da chave comutadora posso usar uma chave Diseqc pra no final separar os sinais?

    1. 32.1

      I have never used DiSEqC key, mas entendo que elas atuem como comutadoras, selecionando um sinal de cada vez. Nesse caso não funcionaria, pois o Sky HDTV Plus precisa acessar ambos os sinais ao mesmo tempo.

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    William santos da Silva

    Friend Skooter, I have a problem. Antes eu usava o LNB SDU e ia um cabo direto até o decodificador e la um divisor para os 2 sintonizadores. Com a mudança precisei trocar o LNB para um Duplo e comprei uma chave comutadora, liguei a saída dupla nas duas entradas da chave e o 1 cabo direto até o decodificador e o divisor para os dois sintonizadores. Acontece que agora eventualmente um transponder fica zerado e as vezes alguns canais ficam com a tela preta, precisando reiniciar o decoder. Preciso obrigatoriamente passar 2 fios até o decoder ou posso instalar uma chave diseqc em duas saídas da chave comutadora e continuar com apenas um cabo? Não tenho como passar outro cabo pela tubulação.

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    John Paul

    Hello, good afternoon!!
    I can still use the LNB STO ? Ou teria uma outra forma de usar o HD plus sem ter que passar cabeamento duplo?
    Thank you!!

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    Mas como vai ficar a configuração do aparelhos só deixar em faixa larga mesmo ou tem que fazer outra configuração

  36. 36

    I had a sky tijolão with universal LNB + Splitter, e pegava sinal no sat 1 e sat 2.

    Agora tenho um Sky HDTV plus, continuo com o LNB universal e usando o divisor, mas não quer pegar sinal nos 2 satellites.

    Eu uso o Diplexador pra misturar os canais abertos, onde conecto o cabo da antena sky e o cabo de uma antena proeletronic pros canais terrestres. No caso se eu trocar pra um LNB duplo, faixa larga deste novo, posso descer um cabo direto e o outro cabo passando pelo diplexador, pra misturar os canais terrestres?

    1. 36.1

      Acho que você vai acabar tendo de trocar o Universal pelo Faixa Larga.
      Na chave 3×4 você já pode inserir diretamente a antena terrestre, dispensando o diplexador.

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    Good morning friend!!!
    Own the sky hd plus and a slim, porem de vez em quando esta dando queda de sinal mas não aparece nenhuma mensagem ou código, meu lnb é universal duplo, ai sai dois cabos do lnb e joga para um divisor pelo qual faz a distribuição para o plus e o slim, chega um cabo para o plus ai o ultimo técnico colocou um divisor proximo ao aparelho para ter os dois cabos de entrada no aparelho, será que é esse divisor próximo ao aparelho que esta causando ausência de sinal?? tenho que descer os dois cabos diretos para aparelho???

    1. 37.1

      As far as I know, o único LNB que pode ser usado com divisores é o SDU. Universal e Faixa Larga precisam das chaves 3×4 e o Plus precisa de dois cabos.

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    William Man

    I haven't seen an explanation that satisfies. O novo LNB faixa Larga, tem duas saídas. As for the “decoderesda SKY uns têm duas entradas, ou sintonizadores, sat 1 e sat 2. É o caso do decoder HD Plus (que grava) . Other, têm apenas uma entrada ,ou sintonizador, sendo o caso do Slim ou do antigo digital.
    O mais importante a explicar é se as duas saídas do LNB faixa larga, se ambas , individually, satisfaz aos decoderes que tem apenas uma entrada. Ou, nesse caso ainda, se vai precisar demisturaras duas saidas do LNB através da chave comutadora 3×4, and
    em sequida plugar qualquer saída da chave 3×4 na entrada unica do decolder.
    O decoder HD plus precisa ser alimentado com 2 fios vindo do LNB simplesmente por que cada entrada no decoder sintoniza faixas de frequencias diferentes.
    O decoder de uma entrada apenas sintoniza ambas as frequencias através de um fio só vindo
    de qualquer saída do LNB faixa larga? is correct?
    Será que falei algo errado no meu entendimento?
    Se estou certo, para quem tem 4 points : 2 HD plus , 1 slim e um digital, irá precisar usar
    2 chaves comutadoras. The 2 fios do LNB alimenta a primeira chave comutadora; em sua saída, 2 fios para o primeiro HDplus e 2 fios para alimentar a segunda chave comutadora.
    Na saida dessa segunda chave, dois fios alimentam o segundo HDplus, 1 fio pra o Slim e
    o ultimo fio para o decoder digital.
    Será que estou errado? Será que estou contribuindo com a galera. Se esvier fico satisfeito.Aguardo a resposta de quem puder. Thanks!!!!

    1. 38.1

      Yes, everything you said is correct.
      Só para ser mais preciso: o Plus precisa de dois cabos pois sintoniza dois canais ao mesmo tempo e pode ser que os dois canais estejam com polarizações diferentes. Cada saída do LNB só pode polarizar na horizontal ou na vertical, nunca nas duas ao mesmo tempo. Quando se trabalha diretamente com o LNB, cada saídapolariza conforme o canal sintonizado no decodificador. Quando se usa a chave 3×4 ela polariza uma saída na horizontal e outra na vertical, e aí cada saída da chave é que vai passar o sinal horizontal ou vertical conforme o canal que o decodificador sintonizar.
      Quando se cascateia chaves é a mesma coisa, ela pega 2 saídas da chave superior, uma com o sinal horizontal.

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    Flávio Roberta

    Good afternoon skooter I changed to universal lnb, mas antes era SDU, mas meu hdvt plus não funciona. Será que tenho que colocar chave comutadora e passar mais um cabo ? Existe um divisor que vai para o slim e outro pro plus mas o slim funciona e o plus não! Existe outro divisor para sat 1 e sat 2 e o que vc me recomenda?

    1. 39.1

      Yes, você precisa de uma chave 3×4 and 3 wires coming out of it, dois para o Plus e um para o Slim. É a única forma que eu conheço do LNB Universal funcionar. Furthermore, o Universal comum já parou ou está parando de funcionar com todos os canais, você precisa trocar para o Faixa Larga.

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    William Man

    My dear Skooter :Thank you very much for your reply! But, apenas para fechar o meu raciocinio, e dos demais, No caso de quem tiver apenas um SLIM e mais nada, ainda assim deverá usar uma chave comutadora para receber as duas saidas do LNB, ou basta descer apenas um fio , de qualquer saída do LNB ,e plugar no SLIM? In other words. o SLIM precisa das 2 saídas do LNB (via chave comutadora), para sintonizar todos os canais?
    Para quem tem apenas 1 SLIM , imagino que irá continuar a usar apenas um fio pelo
    conduite , quer seja vindo direto do LNB, quer seja vindo da chave comutadora, being
    essa chave instalada junto a antena. Parabéns pelo seu trabalho inestimável para quem tem dúvidas com esse LNB faixa larga da sky.

    1. 40.1

      Your reasoning is correct. Se puxar um fio direto do LNB para o único Slim funciona normalmente. Não precisa da chave comutadora.

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    William Man

    Thanks my dear! eu acho que entendi essa parada e graças a voce! fiquei atento as suas respostas que vc deu pra galera e aprendi. Não fosse isso, teria que fazer experiencias e correria o risco de quebrar a cara, pelo seguinte: tenho problemas com conduite estreito e varios pontos (OFICIAIS por assinatura ) e não consegui ser atendido pela Operadora que já marcou 3 vezes a visita tecnica e não vieram me causando transtornos particulares. Estou quase partindo para eu mesmo fazer a substituição e tendo que resolver o lance dos fios no
    conduite. Fiquei sabendo que, uma vez vc alterando a configuração não poderá mais voltar a usar o SDUdaí ter que começar a fazer e terminar tudo de uma tacada só. Mais uma vez obrigado!

    1. 41.1

      Já tive muitos desses problemas com técnicos que agendam e não aparecem. E normalmente eles também não se esforçam muito para passar fios por conduítes apertados. Preferem furar laje ou fazer qualquer porqueira para evitar trabalho.
      O que eu aprendi também foi pesquisando em blogs, fóruns e vendo as respostas. Quem viaja e leva o decodificador de um lugar pra outro acaba tendo que aprender por conta própria ou pagar caro por fora para alguém fazer a segunda instalação.
      No caso do LNB Faixa Larga foi por experiência própria, até comprei uma chave 3×4 para ligar um único decodificador pois li em vários locais que ela era obrigatória. Mas aí testei sem ela e funcionou normalmente.
      Também já vi vários relatos de que sair do SDU é um caminho sem volta. As novas versões de software já não trazem SDU como opção nas configurações.

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    Good morning, I have only two a zapper and a Yes, posso usar o lnb duplo universal e ter na configuração o tipo de instalação faixa larga?

    1. 42.1

      Power can. But sooner or later (e pelo que andei lendo acho que já está acontecendo), alguns canais não vão mais pegar com o LNB Duplo Universal, que não pega algumas frequências que só o LNB Duplo Faixa Larga pega.

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    William Man

    Skooter, quanto ao que vc falou sobre o SDU está confirmado simse vc mexer para Faixa Larga não terá mais a possibilidade de voltar .Realmente, a atualização que eles fizeram acarretou isto!
    Fiquei curious (ainda..rs..rs.) sobre qual equipamento vc usou na experiencia que vc fez
    e relatou acima, com e sem chave e que funcionou em ambas alternativas. Qual foi?
    Em relação a duvida do Alex, having 2 equipamentos, um zapper e um Slim, ambos
    tem uma entrada apenasserá que pode usar cada saída do LNB-Faixa Larga,para cada equipamento dêle?Eu imagino que SIM. Não conheço o Zapper. O universal está com os dias contados sim.

    1. 43.1

      I tested the Plus tijolão (SHR23) and a Slim (SH26).
      Também acho que um zapper e um slim funcionam sem a chave no LNB Faixa Larga.

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    Flávio Roberta

    Skooter obrigado pela e na prática acabei colocando apenas 2 cabos saindo da comutadora 3×4 e atendendo 1 ponto slim e um cabo com divisor pro hdtv plus e sabe o resultado? Slim funcionando e o hdtv plus trava com divisor e realmente o seu ponto é experiência me ajudou pq providenciei outro cabo pro hdtv e funcionou perfeitamente! Parabéns pelo seu trabalho em compartilhar experiência e ao mesmo tempo ajudar as pessoas pq nem todos os técnicos sabem da instalação real. By 3 vezes o técnico da sky veio e não resolveu a questão do hdtv plus e não me escutava que deveria utilizar 3 cabos sendo 2 pro hdtv plus e 1 pro slim. Mas agora está resolvido! Muito obrigado novamente

    1. 44.1

      Hello Flavio,
      I know what it's like. Já tive muitos problemas com técnicos, não só da Sky. Infelizmente essas empresas não treinam bem os funcionários, quase sempre terceirizados. A Vivo, for example, diz no site que minha conexão ADSL teria 1 Mbps de upload, mas nenhum funcionário do atendimento, even technicians, nem mesmo os supervisores são capazes de fazer o ajuste na DSLAM para sincronizar nessa velocidade. Eles nem estão sabendo da mudança. Conversando com eles percebo que nem mesmo sabem como o protocolo ADSL funciona. Aí inventam uma séria de problemas que não existem para justificar.
      No caso da Sky, eu gosto de configurar o decodificador para enviar o sinal nativo, 480i, 720p, 1080i, de acordo com o canal, deixando o upscale para a TV. Aí vem o técnico e mexe em tudo, deixando todo canal com upscale pra 1080i, acabando com a vantagem dos 720p em canais como os ESPN. O jeito deles é sempre o jeito certo, não importa o que o cliente saiba ou pense.
      O jeito é nos unirmos para trocar informações e assim ir consertando ou evitando que façam bobagens em nossas instalações.

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    William Man

    Presado Skooter, Esse depoimento do Flávio eu acredito piamente! Porque? Por que a minha experiencia com a Sky ao longo de mais de 20 years (minha assinatura inicial era de apenas um ponto SD RCA, and today are 4 points) foi sempre deplorável! Só consegui impor o correto junto a essa Empresa, através da Anatel, ou então, através de uma perda de tempo terrível ao longo do tempo ,usando esse famigerado telefone 10611. Eu tenho também no quarto da empregada, uma sky Livre, mas LIVRE MESMO! Today, essa Empresa desonesta, já armou várias artimanhas, MAS EU NÃO ENTREI NA DELA, que me fez perder muito tempo também,
    para transformar em Sky pré pago com recargas!!!! Até o nome daatual sky livrefoi idealizada para iludir o cliente que adquiriu no passado a autentica sky livre _a parabólica da Sky como era anunciada.!!!! Nessa semana que passou ameacei cancelar o minha assinatura Top se eles não me re-estabelecesse o sinal de imediato, o que foi feito para não perder o assinante!!! Voltando ao que disse o Flavio: como pode um tecnico da sky não saber que o hd plus só funciona com os dois sintonizadores devidamente alimentados por 2 cables???!!! que técnico é esse??? que empresa é Essa????? Meu depoimento serve de alerta para quem tem sky Livrenão façam regargas! não façam recadastramentos!!! não entrem na arapuca que a sky vem armando!!!

    1. 45.1

      Hello Guilherme,

      I must be getting close to the 20 anos de assinatura. Também comecei com um único decodificador, só com saída de vídeo composto. Moreover, um dos momentos em que mais fiquei bravo com a Sky foi quando vieram trocar meu decodificador SD com S-Video por outro que só tinha vídeo composto. A atendente chegou ao absurdo de falar que o novo era melhor porque tinha USB. Perguntei pra ela para que servia o USB e ela não soube responder. Yeah, o USB não servia para nada mesmo. Pior que queriam levar embora o decodificador que era meu, pois naqueles tempos o assinante era dono do decodificador. Alegaram que o novo decodificador continuava sendo meu. Não deixei levar e fiquei com ele pra peso de papel. Hoje sei que os decodificadores atuais são todos em comodato, in other words, aquela informação de que na troca eu continuava dono era mentira. Em outra ocasião troquei de plano com a garantia que meus decodificadores slim continuariam gravando no HD externo. Era mentira também, pararam de gravar. Só resolveram me dando um bom desconto para pegar um Plus. A última que me aprontaram foi uma cobrança quadriplicada da fatura em um único mês. Só consegui resolver levando o caso para o site consumidor.gov.br. Pedi o valor cobrado a mais em dobro, segundo manda o CDC, e tiveram que aceitar.

      Ultimately, continuo sendo assinante por falta de opção, pois sei que as concorrentes (Live, Clear, etc.) são ainda piores, pois as uso em outros serviços. Outra coisa que me deixa com muita raiva é que se eu quero guardar uma gravação, preciso gravar no HD e depois capturar a gravação com uma placa de captura HDMI. Meanwhile, quem tem um desses gatos de satélite com duas antenas pode gravar e acessar o arquivo diretamente, sem criptografia alguma. São os piratas oferecendo um serviço melhor que as próprias operadoras, não só em preço, mas também em funcionalidade.

      1. 45.1.1
        William Man

        My God in heaven!!! 100% what you reported it happened to me!! Enquanto que voce recorreu a ao site consumidor.com.br eu recorri à Anatel. Eu continuo com o meu SD e nunca troquei ele, apenas recebi mais 3 pontos através de um upgrade em minha assinatura. Eu já cheguei a perder a compostura com essa Empresa. Mas é aquele negócio né?vc sabe que os concorrentes são horriveis também , então vai ficando…I do not know…estou sempre pensando , a cada dia que passa, que meus dias com essa empresa está chegando ao fim.
        Ontem um de meus HDPlus saiu do arficou dandoprocura de sintonizador 1″….levei um susto e imaginei logo no lance da troca de LNB, mas não foi ainda bem. Dei um reset (poderia também ir pelo outro caminho Ajustes), e depois daquelas leituras todas, agendas,etc…a imagem voltou normalmente. Fui nos outros decodificadores, mas estes estavam normais!!!
        Eu estou prevendo de que terei sérios problemas nos proximos meses, ou dias. Já pensou se o sinal cai 100% para quem não trocou o LNB???? eu simplesmente desisti e fiquei revoltado com os agendamentos não cumpridos e da cara de pau dêles , pois agendavam , eles proprios, sem me consultar , quando eu telefonava e o atendente eletrônico me informava!!!
        De repente, sumiram todos os agendamentos!!!! mas eu guardei todos os protocolos.
        Nesse nosso País as coisas estão ficando PRETAS , é na saúde, é na segurança, é em tudo, e as empresas de entretenimento fazem o que querem! Não querendo me estender mais, devo relatar ainda que as minhas faturas neste ano de 2017 já sofreram pequenos aumentos,
        saindo de 358 reais para os atuais 397 real!!!! é mole????sem a menor explicação!! não adianta ligar pra o 10611é perda de tempo!

  46. 46

    Good morning
    Gostaria se possivel d tirar uma duvida estou com lnb duplo da sky puxei um cabo pra xave 3×4 puxei 2 cabos pro plus mas tem alguns canais q nao pegam ou tem obrigatoriament sair 2 cabos do lnb pra chav ou recptor.?vc pode me diizer oq poderia ser.gracias

    1. 46.1

      Good morning,
      You gotta get out obligatorily 2 cabos do LNB para a chave 3×4.

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