sea 04 2016

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Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

When I'm walking my dog sometimes I'm watching the landscape and the houses. I noticed that several new antennas from Sky were with a different LNB, with a red tip. Researching the subject I found out that the Sky has been using this new LNB in new installations and also comes by replacing the old clients LNB in technical visits. Now they're putting this Broadband Dual Lnb, the Telesystem or WNC.

As a subscriber of Sky for more than 15 years, I still remember that the first was a Universal single LNB, with a single output. Was replaced by a Universal double when passed to a plan with two points. At the time I asked the technician what it would be like if I had more points and he explained that there were up to LNBs 4 outputs, but the Sky wore only the doubles and were more than two points using dividers.

I noticed that the Sky has also been using an LNB STO Red. This has the advantage of sending both channels polarizations (horizontal and vertical) using the same cable (all frequencies together). It's good for HDTV facilities Plus where you cannot pass a second cable, because simply put a splitter by the decoder to feed both tuners with the same cable. Furthermore, the signal can be divided easily to various points with simple high-frequency dividers, dispensing Switch 3×4 I showed in the previous article.

But now I hear the Sky also stopped with the LNB STO and is making the new facility only with the Broadband Dual Lnb. On the one hand, is a disadvantage, for he is like the Universal, having two outputs that polarized, and send the signal of vertical or horizontal channels, but not both at the same time, so the Sky Plus HDTV back need two cables. Furthermore, in installations with 3 or more points (or 2 points being at least one HDTV Plus) You must use the Switch 3×4.

The reason for the change, It is speculated to be the new satellite that Sky should throw even in 2016. The Intelsat 32e (Is-32e) should be called Sky Brazil-1 and will be used exclusively by Sky. Would 81 transponders in the KA and Ku bands. In Ku-band Sky could use up to 60 transponders, sufficient capacity to bring 3D channels or with 4 k resolution, for example. The Broadband Dual Lnb It covers a larger quantity of frequencies and, therefore, I'd be ready for the new satellite.

On my installation, the technician replaced the old universal Dual LNB for the Broadband Dual Lnb to install HDTV Plus point, What also made necessary the passage of new cables and the installation of Switch 3×4.

It is clear that Sky should not use additional frequencies until you change the LNB of the entire installed base. Possibly will leave these frequencies for new channels and go doing the Exchange as package changes occur.

Remember that a change of such proportions has already occurred in the past, not with relation to the LNB, but with respect to the access cards. On the occasion, the Sky needed to change the encryption used, that had been broken. The solution found was to update the base gradually, first for those who had the Premiere football packages, After Telecine, and so on until all cards change the installed base and put all channels with new encryption.

It is worth noting that when there are only two points (or a single HDTV Plus point), the Broadband Dual Lnb works without need Switch 3×4, because both outputs can polarize vertically or horizontally regardless. I've read reports that a Switch 3×4 is required with the new LNB, what might be a result of some installers be putting the key even when the Subscriber is only two points.

With respect to the signal, There is also a considerable improvement when installing the Broadband Dual Lnb, that seems to have a greater sensitivity to the ancient Universal LNB from Sharp and other brands.

Confirms some pictures of Broadband Dual LNB Telesync for antennas 60 a 90 cm when the Sky:

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky, on its packaging

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky, on its packaging

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky, on its packaging

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky, on its packaging

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky, on its packaging

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky, on its packaging

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky, on its packaging

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky, on its packaging

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky, on its packaging

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky, on its packaging

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  1. 1

    Friend, When using the plus shr26 with dual lnb and the switch, have to leave two key cables directly to the Sat in 1 and 2 without divider ? Because the damage to sat 2 searching for channels. The switch receives 3 cables, 2 the satellite and 1 terrestrial antenna.

    1. 1.1

      Olá Rafael,
      Yes, need to leave two key cables, one for each input of the decoder, without divider.

  2. 2

    Two outputs go to plus no splitter, but the other outputs may have dividers, If you're slim or zapper?

    1. 2.1

      Cannot also. You can't use divider to the Sky, except if the LNB STO, that Sky is replacing by Broadband Dual LNB.
      If you need more than the four outputs of the 3 Key×4, need to place a second key 3×4, linked in two ways from the first.
      The point is that each tuner (in each decoder) can switch to horizontal or vertical polarization, Depending on the channel being tuned. If you put a splitter, the tuners will conflict if a want to tune to a channel of horizontal polarization and the other want to tune to a channel of vertical polarization.

  3. 3

    Olá Skooter, a few days ago a technician came and changed my STO LNB for a Broadband Dual LNB, but on the way out he put a antenna switch 3×4 and 10 then put one more meters to connect the HD Plus. But in none of these two keys my HD Slim works, some horizontal TPs are caretaker and if I try to turn on only the Slim looks like the LNB does not receive enough power and won't turn on, so I need Plus attached to the system. Is there anything I can do to connect my HD PLUS + HD SLIM in this Broadband Dual LNB? Remembering that I have 2 comutadoras 3 keys×4 the technician installed. I don't want to have to install another LNB antenna STO only for Slim. Thank you for attention.

    1. 3.1

      It's strange that call, for only 2 a single key points would be enough. Are two cables coming out from the LNB to the first key? And two cables coming out of the first key to the second key?

      1. 3.1.1

        Thanks for the reply Skooter. Yes, leave 2 LNB cable broadband and enter a 3 switch×4, that's where he gets more 3 cables, 1 for the HD Slim and 2 for other 3 switch×4 of more 2 for the HD Plus. The equipment Plus works perfectly with any kind of connection, but the Slim always loses some TPs in horizontal and signal so multiple channels are not tuned. Thank you for your attention.

        1. Skooter

          This second key seems to me unnecessary, could connect directly two cables of the first key in the decoder. But it was still to be working.
          The decoder Slim is configured to use broadband LNB?

          1. Rodrigo

            It's like that second serve key of “Amendment” for the cables that go to the HD Plus, I'm going to delete this key and try the Slim independent, without the Plus in the schema. Work?

          2. Skooter

            Hard to say, It's about to be working as well as it's, Although not the ideal.
            The decoder Slim is configured to use broadband LNB?
            The signal is strong in both?

          3. Rodrigo

            Yes, configured for wide band, I've done that reset with code 02468 also. The TPs usually stay between 95 a 120.
            The Plus signs are also in this average, but always with a tuner a bit stronger than the other when I check the rate of the signs. You need to wait for some time after the satellite configuration or should run immediately if I had everything right? (I'm sorry so many questions but you are helping me to clear my head). Thank you very much Skooter.

          4. Skooter

            After adjusting the decoder usually stay a few minutes receiving satellite Info, but all of a sudden be ready.
            Everything seems to be okay with your installation. Maybe a problem in decoding slim or even in any of the two keys?
            If the Plus can record one channel and tune in any other, then the LNB must be working properly.

  4. 4

    Hello! please, can you clarify if the old universal LNB; use it to use on my antenna. He has four outputs

    1. 4.1

      I think the old universal LNB is still working, but I cannot say until when.

  5. 5
    Charles Alves

    So I have a dual LNB Sky that long range , just a question I can't find the clear signal he !
    It only works with the Sky ?

    1. 5.1

      Yes, the sellers say that only works with the Sky.

  6. 6

    Good night! Get me out a doubt, Maybe you don't understand correctly. I have the unit SKY HDTV that old model, boxy. If you want to place this Broadband Dual LNB, I'm going to need to pull another cable for my device or just what is enough.

    1. 6.1

      Which LNB you currently have? And the decoder is the Plus?
      Plus you need two cables so you can watch one channel and record another (or write two) at the same time.

      1. 6.1.1

        Good morning!

        Use 1 Sharp Universal Twin, It's not the Plus, is the older model, one that has a 500 GB HD inside.

        My interest is only on TV.

        1. Skooter

          If you already use with only a cable with Sharp Universal Twin, You can stick with the double wide band. For watching TV a cable is enough.

          1. SBravia

            Cool, It all worked out.

            Seizing the opportunity, I use a diplexer to filter the digital tv signal + satellite, If you want to connect only 1 TV with the digital signal, proceed as devo?

            Grateful for the attention

          2. Skooter

            Let me get this straight, you have a key 3×4 next to the antennae signal Sky blending with the basic cable and a diplexer separating them next to your TV, it is?

            If that, to connect another TV you can pull a cord from one of the 3 key-free outputs×4 and call in another diplexer, using only the terrestrial antenna output to turn on TV and letting the free Sky.
            I believe that as an alternative to the diplexer you can also use a DC filter.

          3. SBravia

            Excuse, I mean call 1 TV, because that Dilpexer already has another linked.

  7. 7

    Actually is the following: My SKY Receiver and TV in the room, are connected by a Diplexer (single cable) and that same cable, I wonder if for example, If I put a high divider in the middle of it, just to send the TV signal to my room, that's where I want to pull the Digital TV signal, If I'm going to have a loss of satellite signal quality, due to this half-way splitter.

    Obs: The cable is inside a pipe, passing through my room and go to the room, only due to lack of space in the pipe, I can't spend another TV cable, so I would use the same cable.

    1. 7.1

      Has dividers -3 loss, 5dB, so I guess you will have some loss on the Yes satellite signal.
      Furthermore, you need another diplexer or DC filter between the cable and the second TV.

      1. 7.1.1

        Conclusion: Would then use 3 Diplexers and 1 Splitter.

        1. Skooter

          If you already have 2 diplexers that's right.
          I can't guarantee it's going to work, I never called so, but theoretically it's supposed to work.

          1. SBravia

            Beauty, Thank you very much for your time and patience.

  8. 8

    Good afternoon….I have a old sky plan with 6 appliances, 2 HDTV plus , 2 Zapper and 2 Slim…in my case if I change this broadband lnb, I would have to have 8 exits to the right receivers?(4 for the 2 plus + 4 for the 2 Zapper and slim) then I would need to have 3 comutadoras 3 keys×4 correct?? Sera that will work without much loss in signal???

    1. 8.1

      Yes, I believe that the scheme of installation is the same. Signal loss believe that has not, because each receiver will be sending current to feed the 3 keys×4 and amplify the signal.

  9. 9

    Skooter, can you help me. I have a SKY receiver Model S12, eventually take this receiver for Beach. On the site I have a LNB STO, but now the SKY is changing to broadband. If I switch to the universal model, comes 2 antenna cables to receiver, but the receiver has only one entrance to the cable. Is there a key that I can use, to come 2 cables, and through this piece go a simple cable to the receiver?

    1. 9.1

      I don't know this receiver. He does not write, some?
      In this case you just need a Universal LNB cable or broadband to the receiver. The receiver switches the LNB polarization as the channel that you are watching.

      1. 9.1.1

        Skooter, the digital receiver thomson S12B model if u see on Google, you will see that has only one output. I think the only change tbem LNB on the edge to universal will solve. When I take the receiver to trip him of the error, saying you have to do an update on my antenna. From what I've read, could use a DiSEQ key where 2 cables and forward will only cable. Currently I have STO Triax LNB.

        1. Skooter

          But all the receivers that do not write that I know has only one entry. You wouldn't have two. The recording has two when are two tuners (to record a channel and watch another, or record two channels).
          The Sky must have updated the software of receptors to give this error message and force change the LNB.
          Se você trocar o LNB e mudar a configuração no receptor para Faixa Larga deve funcionar.
          Mas já que é para trocar, acho melhor você já mudar para o Faixa Larga, pois o Universal deve parar de funcionar em algum futuro próximo.
          Eu acho que você não precisa de nenhuma chave. As duas saídas do LNB polarizam tanto horizontal quanto vertical. Para até dois receptores (ou um receptor com dois sintonizadores), não há necessidade de chaves.

          1. Ricardo

            Good morning, see the broadband LNB works on a frequency greater, each output that the LNB has is different, a is horizontal, e outra vertical. Therefore, eu acho que precisaria de alguma chave ou peça para chegue só 1 cabo até o receptor

          2. Ricardo

            Vou precisar dessa chave comutadora. See that one side is SAT IN and SAT IN 18V and 13V on RX1 turn digital receiver, e altero no receptor as configs para uso da faixa larga 😀

  10. 10

    Skooter, my friend has this lnb there and has a slim hdtv and a hdtv plus. But as he only has one cable connected in plus, You can't record a channel and watch another. What he should do in this case? Exchange for an lnb outputs more?

    antenna: http://i.imgur.com/1xUV6Lb.jpg

    LNB in 4 outputs that he has saved: http://i.imgur.com/11LoJNI.jpg

    1. 10.1


      He needs to put a Switch 3×4.

  11. 11

    Good Night Skooter, I have one in my house a sky with dual lnb antenna wide band, with a switch 3×4 connecting the receiver, a hdtv plus and other hd. It so happens that I made some changes recently in the cables in my house and so I had to put some “amendments” with those connectors that thread in each side, and after that I was in trouble, because it was only signed in “Sinton. 2”. Then, I went in and unplugged one of the cables connected in the lnb and have sign in sinton. 1 and in sinton. 2, but one of the transponder, the last of the H, was reset. You know more or less what would be the problem and if there is any problem with letting the way it is.
    I thank.

    1. 11.1

      I can't tell you what would be the problem. The signal was very low before?
      Leave only one antenna cable to the 3 key×4 lead to trouble, you won't be able to tune to a channel with horizontal polarization and another with vertical polarization at the same time.

      1. 11.1.1

        Boa tarde Skooter.
        Initially I would like to thank you for your attention. In fact the signal was very good, was 100. It would have happened by now something similar again and the problem was with the lnbf, because after replacing returned to normal. But not even a year ago I switched, What I'm using now and relatively new. De fate, hdtv receiver plus the channels are normal, the other receiver are not tuning some channels. Think it will be necessary to request a concert by sky. Thanks a lot mate.

  12. 12

    Boa tarde Skooter, I have two points of sky , a slim and a hd zapper, There's a NLD sdu installed, and there's the sky cable 1 1 connected to each appliance. I want to know if, When changing to double universal lnb ,need some cable or not? Thank you.

    1. 12.1

      Good afternoon, Rafael,
      Both the slim as the zapper only have a tuner, so if the current divider is near the LNB, probably not change cabling. Only the two cables are connected directly to the LNB.

  13. 13
    Fernando Grimaldi

    Hello dear Skooter.
    Was trocarada the antenna here at home to the new SKY satellite.
    Good, the configuration of PLUS and two ZAPPER in my combo (TOTAL HD 2016) no longer STO and Yes WIDE BAND.
    When the two technicians are gone, Mexi, I went through, I did everything in my PLUS and even now can't make two programs simultaneously; the duo also MEMORY doesn't work anymore.
    I called the technician and he said the SKY is doing this because of the SKY MEDIA CENTER that not even here yet (only has, as its website says, in São Paulo and Belo Horizonte).
    I contacted the 10611 and questioned about the functionality of these two features not (record 2 programs simultaneously and double memory). The answer was that with broadband, the two cables in the PLUS one for SD channels now serve and another for HD and the services have been discontinued and that I should look for other display programs schedule.
    Again I was moving in and I found that really was what she said: I took a cord and only the SD channels picked, After I reversed and only a few HD worked.

    Before a cable just went down to the appliance, being that there was a divider where a tip went to SAT entry 1 and another tip for SAT 2.
    And the setting was STO.

    Now down two cables, one for each SAT. And the setting is WIDE BAND.

    How do I re-record again simultaneously?

    Please, someone guide me.

    And the signal Rate, the tuner 2 points V(vertical) and (H)(speed) all RESET.

    1. 13.1

      Olá Fernando,

      I didn't know this feature of Double Memory, but I tested it and it worked.
      The recording of two channels at the same time keeps running.
      This Sky Media Center I don't know. Until I looked here but I don't understand how it's going to work.
      The configuration on my Broadband also decoders.

      What your package and which version of the software?
      Here the FULL MOVIE HD COMBO package 2017
      Original Version: 0x8330
      Software: 0x8553, Qui 9/7, 2:20

      Signal rate both tuners get high values in vertical and horizontal.

      If they changed something, not affected me yet.

  14. 14

    Good night Skooter,

    I have the unit HDTV Plus and the problem is that I live in apt is it was only possible to pass a cable to device, today as they made a Division and called two cables in the apparatus, with this new LNB really need two cables, even if no longer work the simultaneous recording?

    1. 14.1

      Good night Menoli,
      My HDTV Plus works if I leave with one cable only, but without the resources to record two channels at once or watch one channel and record another.

      1. 14.1.1

        Thanks for replying, so I'm going to have to keep it that way until you change, because 2 cables for the conduit that the MRV left impossible to pass.

  15. 15

    Good afternoon Scooter you know tell me if I can use the Dual LNB high band(Sky) pirate devices???

    1. 15.1

      Good evening Carlos,
      Not tell you.

  16. 16
    Alan Adams

    Good morning,
    There've been times staff receiving the message from SKY : The SKY need to upgrade technology in your free House call 0800 and enter the code 55 live in condo and the antenna is shared for all. This morning was showing the message searching satellite signal in 1. What should I do? My receiver is the Zapper HD.

    1. 16.1

      Good afternoon Alan,
      Have you called in 0800 and informed the code 55?

  17. 17

    After changing the LNB to broadband, need to do anything else as redirect antenna or change some setting in the HDTV receiver PLUS ?

    1. 17.1

      Yes, the decoder there is an option to select the type of LNB. You need to select “Wide Band”.

      1. 17.1.1

        Good night skooter. I am also with this problem how do I change this setting in the decoder.

        1. Skooter

          Good day Frederick.
          Try going into Menu-Settings and help > > adjustments-> Sat. and antenna-> Repeat satellite configuration
          In “Type of installation”, Select “Wide Band”.

  18. 18

    Bom dia Skooter,

    I have the plus hdtv, I moved into an apartment where the building already has a cable system, but there's only one cable to fit, in this case I can only call on one of the SAT inputs, not having to use the feature to record a channel and watch another at the same time. To have again this feature you need to pull a new cable it off for ?

    or I can call a divider inside this cable to connect on SAT 1 and the other way out in 2 ?? in this case work !? would have to change the configuration of the appliance to STO ?
    My this on broadband.

    thank you!

    1. 18.1

      Good morning Marcelo,
      Do you know what type of LNB the building uses? If the Sto you can by the splitter.
      If it is Universal or broad band would have to pull another cable from the 3 key×4 (or equivalent) more next.

  19. 19

    wave !!
    Acquire a shared sky point, installed in an antenna that was already in the building, I get the message it is necessary the technological updating of the ANTENNA (What's not getting some ”in your home”) I have to buy an antenna and install ? or it can be pointing or something else ?!
    thank you

  20. 20


  21. 21

    Bom dia Skooter. Indicates request to Exchange in the SKY of the SDU for the wide band? Going to make anything better in the signal? Or is it just for future updates?

    1. 21.1

      Good morning Raphael,

      I never had the Sto, I spent Universal direct wide band. In my case the signal improved a little, Maybe the new LNB has more sensitivity or the former was already in trouble. But nothing that will make a difference in practice, except maybe in time of rain.

      The update will be mandatory when the Sky pass using the frequency bands that only has Broadband, What I believe they won't do until the entire base is updated, or at least the part of the base that has channels that will be on the new frequencies.

      Apparently they are already taking advantage of the technical visits to make the switch. But for now I think you're not missing anything to be with the Sto.

  22. 22

    Thank you for the information.
    If all people are propuzessem to help each other the world would be much better!

  23. 23

    Bom dia Skooter,

    I have a doubt, I hope you can help me. I live in for, and this is with the LNB Installation SDU those reds, and there are several keys to split cables, You should know how.
    I can't call a tecnico SKY because my point is shared, I'm not a Subscriber.
    Own a Zapper decoder. If I just change the LNB STO by Broadband will work? Or will have to be changed every installation of cables? I'm a little anxiety in relation to this.
    Detail: only I use the SKY here in the building.

    Thank you!

    1. 23.1

      Good morning Philip,
      I don't know what these dividers. If they are simple dividers, and you change the LNB STO by broadband and change settings in the Zapper should work, because he will polarize according to the channel that you are watching.
      But if I ever have another Subscriber will give problem, for the correct installation of Broadband LNB's with two cables.

  24. 24

    Good afternoon, Skooter,
    I have a Broadband LNB antenna and a Sky HDTV Plus. What should I do in time to install?
    I've tried to pull only one LNB cable, connect to the switch 3×4 and then pull two cables to the receiver and pulling two wires directly from the LNB to the receiver and not getting success in any of the two attempts, simply not no sign of life.
    I only have success when pull only a direct cable to receiver LN, but then I can't record another channel.
    I ask your help.


    1. 24.1

      Good night Vitor,
      If you only have a receiver, can pull two LNB direct cables. Otherwise it is two cables of the LNB to the 3 key×4 and two key cables 3×4 Pro receiver.
      If it's not working so it may be a problem with any of the equipment or in the cable itself, or the receiver configuration.

  25. 25

    Good morning skooter, I wonder if the sky media center works in a double wide band, because I have it on SWM (that is the new sky lnb is deploying the antennae), but I also have a dual broadband antenna, and I wonder what the media center works in a wide range. (No case, only the main media center device, and devices not minis).
    And if it works, I have to pull 2 dual cables for average broadband center (media center has only one entry, and it writes simultaneously another, like plus, only the plus has 2 inputs)?
    Thank you!

    1. 25.1

      Good morning Yago,
      This can't answer. I don't know exactly how it works the Sky Media Center. I imagine that the decoders to communicate with each other by the same antenna cable, then the LNB must be some preparation for it, but I can't tell which has.

  26. 26

    Bom dia Skooter, your channel is very enlightening, congratulations. I have problem with my sky signal. I made the switch to universal lnb your did all procedures and the system recognizes that it's okay. It turns out that I'm not tuning in a few 24 sd and hd channels. Appears in these message channels ” looking tuner signal 2. My signal rate and 55% I feel 1 and 60% feel 2. The may have occurred?

    1. 26.1

      Good morning Luiz,
      I know that at some point the Universal LNB would get all channels, but I don't know if this has already occurred.

  27. 27

    Bom dia Skooter, I have a HD receiver | Slim from Sky to take to the beach and there must update the LNB to the double wide band. The receiver is already configured for wide band. My question is how to make the connection, from what I have researched I have to pull 2 LNB cable, connect a switch 3×4 e ligar o receptor numa das saídas da chave. Precisa necessariamente ser dessa forma ou se eu somente trocar o LNB e continuar usando 1 cabo vai funcionar? Do jeito que está (LNB antigo) alguns canais não funcionam (normalmente o HD), fica uma tela preta. Abs.

    1. 27.1

      Good night Fabiano,
      Você pode ligar um cabo direto do LNB Faixa Larga ao Receptor HD Slim.

  28. 28
    Mério Joaquim Dutra Júnior

    Boa tarde Skooter!
    I'm having a problem.
    Tenho um ponto em minha roça com um aparelho slim e um sky live.
    Atualmente uso um LNB SDU Triax que leva um cabo até proximo aos aparelhos onde uso um divisor pra alimentar os dois.
    Lá não existe a possibilidade de passar outro cabo e preciso do aparelho da Sky livre por conta da globo que o slim não tem.
    Lá também não tem sinal de tv aberta.
    Question I saw an image of a scheme on the internet where uses the switch and the first two exits (and rx1 rx2) Enter a key and becomes just a cable and Web to recipients fall into two cables.
    It would be a key disecq?
    Know me know if the switch accepts this connection and after the disecq key can I put a splitter?

    1. 28.1

      Good afternoon Mério,
      I haven't seen any schema that allow dividers with Broadband LNB.

  29. 29
    Mério Joaquim Dutra Júnior

    Boa tarde Skooter!
    I have a unit sky slim installed in place along with a free sky there have a LNB STO TRIAX cable until further down where to equipment where there is a watershed that feeds the two devices.
    There does not exist the possibility to pass another cable and I need free sky on the globe.
    I saw in a picture on the internet that uses the key switched and the first two exits connect in a key turning in a cable and then a new key divides the signal.
    Can I use a key disecq d after a splitter?
    Will it work?
    Or can I put a direct splitter?

  30. 30
    Mério Joaquim Dutra Júnior

    This is the image you mentioned.

    1. 30.1
      Mério Joaquim Dutra Júnior

      Skooter got two devices installed in a place where there's no tv signal, These devices are a slim hd and a free sky, where the antenna has an LNB STO TRIAX and down a cable to next to equipment and there is a divider that feeds both devices and it is not possible to pass another cable, can I use a key disecq calling two key switched outputs and next to equipment using a splitter?

  31. 31

    Friend. Tenho um único ponto em minha casa que se origina de outra residência de minha família. Eu comprei o UnB faixa larga e instalei. Só que vários canais HD ficam procurando sinal ou tela preta. De vez em quando pegam. O que eu faço? Troco antena?

    1. 31.1

      The signal is strong? The alignment is correct?
      Na troca do LNB você ajustou o posicionamento dele?

  32. 32
    William santos da Silva

    Skooter, Good morning. Antes da mudança da Sky eu usava o SDU com um cabo e um divisor no final do receptor já instalado pelo técnico. Agora preciso usar um LNB universal e o problema é que em casa não consigo passar mais um cabo na tubulação. Eu comprei uma chave comutadora e liguei as duas saidas do lnb em cada entrada da chave e o cabo único direto pro receptor. As vezes algum transponder fica zerado e eventualmente a imagem de alguns canais ficam preta e preciso reiniciar o receptor. Preciso obrigatoriamente passar 2 cabos ou depois da chave comutadora posso usar uma chave Diseqc pra no final separar os sinais?

    1. 32.1

      I have never used DiSEqC key, mas entendo que elas atuem como comutadoras, selecionando um sinal de cada vez. Nesse caso não funcionaria, pois o Sky HDTV Plus precisa acessar ambos os sinais ao mesmo tempo.

  33. 33
    William santos da Silva

    Friend Skooter, I have a problem. Antes eu usava o LNB SDU e ia um cabo direto até o decodificador e la um divisor para os 2 sintonizadores. Com a mudança precisei trocar o LNB para um Duplo e comprei uma chave comutadora, liguei a saída dupla nas duas entradas da chave e o 1 cabo direto até o decodificador e o divisor para os dois sintonizadores. It turns out that eventually a transponder is now reset and sometimes some channels get the black screen, need restart the decoder. Preciso obrigatoriamente passar 2 wires up to the decoder or can I install a diseqc key into two outputs of the switch and continue with only one cable? I can't spend another cable pipe.

  34. 34
    John Paul

    Hello, good afternoon!!
    I can still use the LNB STO ? Or another way to use the HD plus without having to spend double cabling?
    Thank you!!

  35. 35

    But like the configuration of the devices just let in even broadband or have to do another configuration

  36. 36

    I had a sky tijolão with universal LNB + Splitter, and took the sat signal 1 and sat 2.

    Now I have a Sky plus HDTV, keep with the universal LNB and using the splitter, but you don't want to get in 2 satellites.

    I use Diplexador to mix the channels open, onde conecto o cabo da antena sky e o cabo de uma antena proeletronic pros canais terrestres. No caso se eu trocar pra um LNB duplo, faixa larga deste novo, posso descer um cabo direto e o outro cabo passando pelo diplexador, pra misturar os canais terrestres?

    1. 36.1

      Acho que você vai acabar tendo de trocar o Universal pelo Faixa Larga.
      Na chave 3×4 você já pode inserir diretamente a antena terrestre, dispensando o diplexador.

  37. 37

    Good morning friend!!!
    Own the sky hd plus and a slim, porem de vez em quando esta dando queda de sinal mas não aparece nenhuma mensagem ou código, meu lnb é universal duplo, ai sai dois cabos do lnb e joga para um divisor pelo qual faz a distribuição para o plus e o slim, chega um cabo para o plus ai o ultimo técnico colocou um divisor proximo ao aparelho para ter os dois cabos de entrada no aparelho, será que é esse divisor próximo ao aparelho que esta causando ausência de sinal?? tenho que descer os dois cabos diretos para aparelho???

    1. 37.1

      As far as I know, o único LNB que pode ser usado com divisores é o SDU. Universal e Faixa Larga precisam das chaves 3×4 e o Plus precisa de dois cabos.

  38. 38
    William Man

    I haven't seen an explanation that satisfies. O novo LNB faixa Larga, tem duas saídas. As for the “decoderesda SKY uns têm duas entradas, ou sintonizadores, sat 1 and sat 2. É o caso do decoder HD Plus (que grava) . Other, têm apenas uma entrada ,ou sintonizador, sendo o caso do Slim ou do antigo digital.
    O mais importante a explicar é se as duas saídas do LNB faixa larga, se ambas , individually, satisfies the decoderes which has only one entry. Or, in this case still, If you're going to need “mix” the two LNB outputs through the switch 3×4, and
    in transfer plug any output 3 key×4 at the entrance one of the decolder.
    The decoder HD plus needs to be fed with 2 wires coming from LNB simply because each entry in the decoder tune different frequencies ranges.
    The decoder input only tunes both frequencies through a wire just coming
    any broadband LNB output? is correct?
    Does something wrong in my understanding?
    If I'm right, for those who have 4 points : 2 HD plus , 1 Slim and a digital, you will need to use
    2 comutadoras keys. The 2 LNB feed leads to first switch; on your way out, 2 for the first HDplus and 2 wires to feed the second switch.
    On the way out of this second key, two wires feed the second HDplus, 1 wire to the Slim and
    the last wire to the digital decoder.
    Am I wrong? Am I contributing to guys. If esvier I am pleased. I await the answer of who can. Thanks!!!!

    1. 38.1

      Yes, everything you said is correct.
      Just to be more precise: Plus you need two cables as tunes two channels at the same time and it may be that the two channels are with different polarizations. Each output of the LNB can only polarize horizontally or vertically, never on both at the same time. When working directly with the LNB, each saídapolariza as the tuned channel decoder. When using the 3 key×4 She polarizes an out horizontally and the other vertically, and then each output of the key is who will pass the horizontal or vertical signal as the channel decoder tune.
      When cascateia keys is the same thing, She takes 2 top key outputs, a horizontal light.

  39. 39
    Flávio Roberta

    Good afternoon skooter I changed to universal lnb, but before it was STO, but my hdvt plus does not work. Do I have to put the switch and spend another cable ? There is a splitter that goes to the slim and other pro plus but slim works and the plus does not! There is another splitter for sat 1 and sat 2 and what do you recommend me?

    1. 39.1

      Yes, you need a key 3×4 and 3 wires coming out of it, two for the Plus and one for Slim. It's the only way I know of Universal LNB function. Furthermore, the common Universal already has stopped or is collapsed with all channels, you need to switch to the Broadband.

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    William Man

    My dear Skooter :Thank you very much for your reply! But, just to close my reasoning, and the rest of the, In the case of those who have only a SLIM and nothing else, still should use a switch to receive the two LNB outputs, or just go down just one wire , any LNB output ,and plug in the SLIM? In other words. SLIM needs 2 LNB outputs (via switch), to tune in all channels?
    For those with only 1 SLIM , I imagine will continue to use only one thread by
    conduit , whether you are coming straight from the LNB, whether it's coming from the switch, being
    This key installed along the antenna. Congratulations on your work invaluable for anyone who has doubts with this LNB sky broadband.

    1. 40.1

      Your reasoning is correct. If you pull a wire direct from the LNB to the only Slim works normally. You don't need the switch.

  41. 41
    William Man

    Thanks my dear! I think I understood this and thanks to you! I was aware of your answers you gave to guys and I learned. It wasn't that, would have to do experiments and run the risk of breaking the man, by the following: I have problems with narrow conduit and various points (Officers for signature ) and could not be serviced by the carrier that has scored 3 times the technical visit are not here giving me private disorders. I'm almost starting to make replacement and having to deal with the whole of the wires on the
    conduit. I heard that, Once you by changing the setting will no longer be able to use the Sto…then having to start making and finish all of one fell swoop. Thanks again!

    1. 41.1

      I've had a lot of problems with technicians who schedule and do not appear. And usually they don't strive a lot to pass wires through tight conduit. Prefer stick slab or do any deadbeat to avoid work.
      What I learned was also searching on blogs, forums and see the answers. Who travels and takes the decoder from place to place ends up having to learn on your own or pay for outside for someone to do the second installation.
      In the case of wide band LNB was from personal experience, I even bought a key 3×4 to connect a single decoder because I read in several places that it was mandatory. But then I tested without her and worked normally.
      I have also seen several reports that out of the SDU is a one-way street. The new versions of software do not bring STO as an option in the settings.

  42. 42

    Good morning, I have only two a zapper and a Yes, can I use the dual lnb and universal have in setting the type of broadband installation?

    1. 42.1

      Power can. But sooner or later (and from what I've been reading up guess already happening), Some channels won't get with the Double Universal LNB, take some frequencies that only get Broadband Dual LNB.

  43. 43
    William Man

    Skooter, as for what you said about the SDU is confirmed Yes…If you move to Broadband will no longer have the option to come back. Really, the update they made led to this!
    Fiquei curious (yet.. RS.. RS.) on what equipment you used in the experiment you did
    and reported above, with and without key and it worked in both alternatives. What was?
    In relation to doubt Alex, having 2 equipment, a zapper and a Slim, both
    There's an entrance only …can you use each output LNB-Broadband,for each of his business equipment?I imagine that YES. I don't know the Zapper. The universal is on borrowed time Yes.

    1. 43.1

      I tested the Plus tijolão (SHR23) and a Slim (SH26).
      I also think a zapper and a slim work without the key Broadband LNB.

  44. 44
    Flávio Roberta

    Submit your thanks for and ended up putting in practice only 2 cables coming out of the switch 3×4 and given 1 slim point and a cable with splitter pro hdtv plus and know the result? SLIM working and the hdtv plus crashes with splitter and your point is really experience helped me because I provided another pro hdtv cable and it worked perfectly! Congratulations on your work in sharing experience and at the same time help people because not all techs know about the actual installation. By 3 times the sky came and did not solve the issue of hdtv plus and wouldn't listen to me you should use 3 cables being 2 Pro hdtv plus and 1 Pro slim. But now it is solved! Thank you very much again

    1. 44.1

      Hello Flavio,
      I know what it's like. I've had many problems with technicians, not only from the Sky. Unfortunately these companies don't train employees well, almost always outsourced. Vivo, for example, It says on the website that my ADSL connection would have 1 Mbps upload, but no employee of care, even technicians, even the supervisors are able to adjust in the DSLAM to synchronize at this speed. They're not even aware of the change. Talking with them I realize that I don't even know how the ADSL protocol works. Then make up a series of problems that do not exist to justify.
      In the case of Sky, I like to set the decoder to send the native signal, 480i, 720p, 1080i, According to the channel, leaving the upscale to the TV. Here comes the coach and move in all, leaving every channel with upscale to 1080i, the advantage of 720 p in channels such as ESPN. Their way is always the right way, No matter what the client know or think.
      The way is to come together to exchange information and so go fixing or preventing them to do silly things in our facilities.

  45. 45
    William Man

    Presado Skooter, This statement of Flavius I believe! Because? Why is my experience with the Sky over 20 years (my initial subscription was only one point RCA SD, and today are 4 points) was always deplorable! I could only enforce the correct with this company, by Anatel, or so, through a terrible time loss over time ,using this infamous phone 10611. I have also in the maid's room, a free sky, but EVEN FREE! Today, This dishonest Company, already set several tricks, BUT I DIDN'T GET INTO HER, that made me lose too much time,
    to turn on Sky with prepaid refills!!!! Even the name of the “current sky free” It was designed to deceive the customer who purchased in the past the sky dish _ signs of the Sky as it was announced.!!!! This week threatened to cancel my subscription to Top if they re-established the immediate signal, What was done in order not to lose the Subscriber!!! Returning to Flavio: How can a coach not know the sky hd plus only works with two tuners properly fed by 2 cables???!!! It is this technical??? that company is That????? My statement serves as a warning to those who have free sky…do not regargas! do not relisting!!! not enter the trap that sky comes armando!!!

    1. 45.1

      Hello Guilherme,

      I must be getting close to the 20 years of subscription. Also started with a single decoder, only with composite video output. Moreover, one of the times when I was more mad at the Sky was when they came to Exchange my SD decoder with S-Video by another who had only composite video. The clerk reached the absurd talk about the new was better because it was USB. Asked her what good was the USB and she didn't know how to respond. Yeah, the USB was useless even. Worse who wanted to take away the decoder that was my, because in those days the Subscriber owned the decoder. They claimed that the new decoder continued being my. Not blinded and kept it for paper weight. Today I know that the current decoders are all in lending, in other words, that information that in return I kept owner was a lie. On another occasion I switched TVs with the guarantee that my slim decoders would continue writing to external HD. That was a lie too, stopped recording. I just decided to give me a good discount to get a Plus. The last one I did was a quadriplicada collection of invoice in a single month. I just took care of business, taking the case to the site consumidor.gov.br. I asked the amount charged in double, According to send the CDC, and they had to accept.

      Ultimately, I'm still a Subscriber for lack of options, because I know that the competitors (Live, Clear, etc.) are even worse, for the use in other services. Another thing that makes me really angry is that if I want to keep a recording, need to record in HD and then capture the recording with a HDMI capture card. Meanwhile, who has one of those cats with two satellite antennas can record and access the file directly, without any encryption. The pirates are offering a better service to the operators themselves, not only in price, but also in functionality.

      1. 45.1.1
        William Man

        My God in heaven!!! 100% what you reported it happened to me!! While you went to the consumidor.com.br site I resorted to Anatel. I continue with my SD and have never traded him, just received more 3 points through an upgrade on my signature. I came to lose her composure with this company. But is that right?you know that competitors are horrible also , then it gets…I do not know…I'm always thinking , with each passing day, my days with this company is coming to an end.
        Yesterday one of my HDPlus is down…was giving “looking for 1 tuner″….I took a fright and imagined at the whole Exchange of LNB, but has not yet been well. I gave a reset (It could also go the other way Adjustments), and after those readings all, schedules,etc…the image returned normally. I was in the other decoders, but these were normal!!!
        I'm predicting that I have serious problems in the next few months, or days. Do you ever wonder if the signal falls 100% for those who haven't changed the LNB???? I simply gave up and I was disgusted with the unmet schedules and the chutzpah of them , Since agendavam , they own, without consulting me , When I called and the clerk informed me electronic!!!
        All of a sudden, gone all schedules!!!! but I kept all protocols.
        In this our country things are getting BLACK , is on health, is security, is in all, and the entertainment companies do what they want! Not trying to extend more, should I still report my invoices in this year 2017 have suffered small increases,
        coming out of 358 real for today 397 real!!!! is soft????without the slightest explanation!! It's no use calling the 10611…It's a waste of time!

  46. 46

    Good morning
    I would like if possible d take a doubt I'm with dual lnb sky pulled a cord to 3 xave×4 I pulled 2 pro plus cables but have some q channels take or has obrigatoriament out 2 lnb cable to chav or recptor.?You can true me q could be. gracias

    1. 46.1

      Good morning,
      You gotta get out obligatorily 2 LNB cable to the 3 key×4.

  47. 47

    Dear Skooter, I took several questions in this post and the replies, but still I got a simple doubt. The devices configured as Sto work with a broadband lnb?

    It may seem pointless to question, but it has 3 points that come out of the switch box that is on the side of the antenna. 2 are mine and a is a neighbor that I don't know who is.
    As the antenna is not my, I live for hire, and I don't know the agreement that was made before, I do not want to change the lnb and cut the signal of another person.

    1. 47.1

      Never had LNB STO, but I believe does not work, because the two work so distinctive.

  48. 48

    Skooter, congratulations on the page, has been a great help so far. I got some questions still:
    The “technician” was to upgrade the tip of sky, and saw they had points “extras”. Home 1 has the HD Plus, and the other houses have the HD Slim.
    The coach changed the tip of home 1 for the broadband dual lnb, but not updated yet the system, saying that if you do this and the other houses have not changed the finials will stop working. (This House had the LNB STO, with the setting in STO). According to him, had to replace all prior, because when the plus change, I was going to stop working on the slim of the other houses.

    In the House 2 for example, is the Universal Dual LNB, with the Universal configuration. I'm pretty sure it's the man, to exchange the tips…(are you asking 120 the new dicks).

    What I'm finding it all, really who has STO tip, are you getting messages sending replace the finials. The houses that have Universal dual tip, didn't show any message of an Exchange so far. I'm guessing that Universal's life will be longer, in dire straits do not need to change… Can you tell if it proceeds? have the specifications of dual band broadband, to compare with the double universal?
    Thank you,

    1. 48.1

      I don't know answer for sure, but I don't think it's necessary an update by the side of the Sky. If the guy took the LNB STO and put the wide band, He had to change the setting in the decoder. As far as I know that's all that needs to be done. I think he really wants to make a little extra to change the LNB of the additional points.
      As to messages, I think that the decoder has no way to distinguish a Universal LNB a Wide Range. See if the decoder is no longer configured for wide band.
      The Dual LNB goes Broadband 10,7 a 12,2 GHz.

      1. 48.1.1

        True Skooter, never attempt this, If the guy changed the tip of home 1, He necessarily had to change to faixar put… otherwise it wouldn't work… the theory seems correct so…

        With respect to the LNB, mine is a Universal Twin LNB, BS1K0EL207L. Searching the internet, says his band is:

        Universal Lnb KU Band Double – 40mm
        Input frequency on low band: 10,70 ~ 11,70 GHz
        High band input frequency: 11,70 ~ 12,75 GHz
        Output frequency on low band: 950 ~ 1950 MHz
        Output frequency in high band: 1100 ~ 2150 MHz
        Frequency of the local oscillator: 9750 (b. low) / 10600 MHz (b. high).

        As I understand it, He understands exactly the 10,7 to 12,75 GHz…

        I think I'll leave it at that and see what happens… find that really only has the Sto that need to change, My like is universal, and was already configured for universal won't give problem…and when it does change … but I'm not falling for that change now for that price… Thank you!

        1. Daniel

          Updating the answer… the “technician” change the tip, stating that if change and update the system, lose signal in other…

          Following my theory, I think he did it to try to sell the other tips, because if he update without changing the tips of other houses, I couldn't force the Exchange as he's trying to…

          Update here when it happens this update and if I keep running my universal…


  49. 49
    Cristiano Lima

    Good night Skooter. Made the mistake of restarting the satellite installation and changed the STO option of my Broadband receiver, result: as my antenna LNB has STO most channels are not working anymore (black screen), I tried to return the receiver to STO, but to my surprise the option disappeared, now only has the Broadband option and SWN, probably because of the receiver software update. Is there any way to get the previous version of the software of the receiver, to return to setup option appears STO?

    1. 49.1

      Good morning Cristiano,
      Not that I know of.

  50. 50
    Chang Baptist

    Ola Skooter. Notei que voce domina excelentemente o assunto. No entanto sou leigo, e enfrento problemas com os sinais da Sky. Atualmente utilizo um LNB SDU que funciona para dois receptores comuns ( não HD Plus). Há anos comprei um LNB Smart duplo( German)para instalação. Entretanto o técnico disse que iria instalar o SDU que era melhor. Colocou-se um divisor. . A especificação desse LNB ( Smart ) it is: Input :Low band 10,7 – 11,7Ghz
    High band – 11,6 – 12,75ghz
    L.O, Frequency: Low Band : 9,75GHZi
    High band: 10,6ghz
    Seria esse o novo LNB?

  51. 51

    Good night Skooter. Fiz também a besteira de reiniciar instalação do satélite e mudei a opção SDU do meu receptor para Faixa Larga, result: as my antenna LNB has STO most channels are not working anymore (black screen), I tried to return the receiver to STO, but to my surprise the option disappeared, now only has the Broadband option and SWN, probably because of the receiver software update. Já fiz de tudo para voltar a versão anterior do software do receptor. Percebi ainda que vários passam por essa situação. Não achou uma forma de voltar a opção anterior? I thank.

    1. 51.1
      Cristiano Lima Lisbon

      Good morning Junior Osta, infelizmente não existe nenhuma forma de voltar a versão do software do receptor (informação do próprio técnico da Sky), a única solução é a troca para o novo LNB; foi o que a Sky fez em minha residência e com isso tiveram que passar mais um cabo pela tubulação, pois os receptores HDTV Plus (que gravam) precisam de dois cabos diretos da antena para o receptor.

  52. 52
    William Man

    I would like to give feedback to the Skooter , e para toda a galera: Todo o entendimento que Eu tinha e que foi confirmado pelo Skooter, está ratificado. The “carinhada sky fêz a insalação do novo LNB e o funcionamento está perfeito e de acordo com o que imaginávamos. A configuração é simples: Para os HDsPlus foi só configurar o LNB. Para o SD, configurar o LNB e não esquecer de passar o ID de 10 para NENHUM. Um abração para todos!

  53. 53
    William Man

    Oi Skooter! Look: a friend has the free sky , daquelas antigas quando não existia Recargas!
    Ele veio me perguntar se terá que trocar também o LNB da antena. Eu imagino que sim mas não tenho certeza. Alias, o problema maior é como acessar o MENU do controle remoto dêle, pois me parece que não tem tecla especifica. Talvez seja um acesso através da combinação de 2 teclas apertadas ao mesmo tempo. Vc sabe algo a respeito?

    1. 53.1

      Hi William,
      I can not answer you. Na verdade nunca vi um Sky Livre funcionando. O mais provável é que tenha que trocar o LNB também.

  54. 54
    Glauco Silva Bruno

    Good morning. I have the problem of the code 55 e minha antena tem o LNB SDU vermelho. Fiz a compra do LNB duplo (faixa larga) e a chave comutadora 3×4 mas quando troco, sem mexer na posição da antena, no teste de sinal não sai do 0. Verifiquei que outras antenas da sky estão posicionadas diferente da minha, mas com o LNB antigo funciona com a limitação de alguns canais ficarem com tela preta. Minha dúvida: Além da troca do LNB tenho que reposicionar a antena? Outra, possuo um aparelho HD que grava que tem uma chave 1×2, onde uma entrada do fio que vem da antena e dois fios que vão para o decodificador, e um que não grava assim com esa mudança essa chave 1×2 não funciona mais?

    1. 54.1

      The position of the antenna does not change, mas tem a opção de tipo de LNB no decodificador que precisa ser alterada (lembre-se que, uma vez que se altera, não tem mais como voltar para SDU). O divisor não funciona com o LNB Duplo Faixa Larga, precisa de dois fios para o aparelho Plus.

  55. 55

    Olá Skooter ! Trocando a LNB SDU para Faixa Larga tem que levar 02 fios da LNB até o receptor ou pode-se fazer algo para que fique como estava (saia um fio da LNB e antes de chegar no receptor foi colocado um divisor para que pudesse encaixar nas 02 entradas de fio) ???????

    1. 55.1

      Hello Alexxxon,
      You have to take 2 fios.

  56. 56

    Remembering that my device is SKY HD PLUS.

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