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Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

When I'm walking my dog sometimes I'm watching the landscape and the houses. I noticed that several new antennas from Sky were with a different LNB, with a red tip. Researching the subject I found out that the Sky has been using this new LNB in new installations and also comes by replacing the old clients LNB in technical visits. Now they're putting this Broadband Dual Lnb, the Telesystem or WNC.

As a subscriber of Sky for more than 15 years, I still remember that the first was a Universal single LNB, with a single output. Was replaced by a Universal double when passed to a plan with two points. At the time I asked the technician what it would be like if I had more points and he explained that there were up to LNBs 4 outputs, but the Sky wore only the doubles and were more than two points using dividers.

I noticed that the Sky has also been using an LNB STO Red. This has the advantage of sending both channels polarizations (horizontal and vertical) using the same cable (all frequencies together). It's good for HDTV facilities Plus where you cannot pass a second cable, because simply put a splitter by the decoder to feed both tuners with the same cable. Furthermore, the signal can be divided easily to various points with simple high-frequency dividers, dispensing Switch 3×4 I showed in the previous article.

But now I hear the Sky also stopped with the LNB STO and is making the new facility only with the Broadband Dual Lnb. On the one hand, is a disadvantage, for he is like the Universal, having two outputs that polarized, and send the signal of vertical or horizontal channels, but not both at the same time, so the Sky Plus HDTV back need two cables. Furthermore, in installations with 3 or more points (or 2 points being at least one HDTV Plus) You must use the Switch 3×4.

The reason for the change, It is speculated to be the new satellite that Sky should throw even in 2016. The Intelsat 32e (Is-32e) should be called Sky Brazil-1 and will be used exclusively by Sky. Would 81 transponders in the KA and Ku bands. In Ku-band Sky could use up to 60 transponders, sufficient capacity to bring 3D channels or with 4 k resolution, for example. The Broadband Dual Lnb It covers a larger quantity of frequencies and, therefore, I'd be ready for the new satellite.

On my installation, the technician replaced the old universal Dual LNB for the Broadband Dual Lnb to install HDTV Plus point, What also made necessary the passage of new cables and the installation of Switch 3×4.

It is clear that Sky should not use additional frequencies until you change the LNB of the entire installed base. Possibly will leave these frequencies for new channels and go doing the Exchange as package changes occur.

Remember that a change of such proportions has already occurred in the past, not with relation to the LNB, but with respect to the access cards. On the occasion, the Sky needed to change the encryption used, that had been broken. The solution found was to update the base gradually, first for those who had the Premiere football packages, After Telecine, and so on until all cards change the installed base and put all channels with new encryption.

It is worth noting that when there are only two points (or a single HDTV Plus point), the Broadband Dual Lnb works without need Switch 3×4, because both outputs can polarize vertically or horizontally regardless. I've read reports that a Switch 3×4 is required with the new LNB, what might be a result of some installers be putting the key even when the Subscriber is only two points.

With respect to the signal, There is also a considerable improvement when installing the Broadband Dual Lnb, that seems to have a greater sensitivity to the ancient Universal LNB from Sharp and other brands.

Confirms some pictures of Broadband Dual LNB Telesync for antennas 60 a 90 cm when the Sky:

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky, on its packaging

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky, on its packaging

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky, on its packaging

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky, on its packaging

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky, on its packaging

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky, on its packaging

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky, on its packaging

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky, on its packaging

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky, on its packaging

Dual Lnb Offset Antenna Broadband 60 ~ 90 cm Telesystem for Sky, on its packaging

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  1. 1
    Rafael

    Friend, When using the plus shr26 with dual lnb and the switch, have to leave two key cables directly to the Sat in 1 and 2 without divider ? Because the damage to sat 2 searching for channels. The switch receives 3 cables, 2 the satellite and 1 terrestrial antenna.

    1. 1.1
      Skooter

      Olá Rafael,
      Yes, need to leave two key cables, one for each input of the decoder, without divider.

  2. 2
    Márcio

    Two outputs go to plus no splitter, but the other outputs may have dividers, If you're slim or zapper?

    1. 2.1
      Skooter

      Cannot also. You can't use divider to the Sky, except if the LNB STO, that Sky is replacing by Broadband Dual LNB.
      If you need more than the four outputs of the 3 Key×4, need to place a second key 3×4, linked in two ways from the first.
      The point is that each tuner (in each decoder) can switch to horizontal or vertical polarization, Depending on the channel being tuned. If you put a splitter, the tuners will conflict if a want to tune to a channel of horizontal polarization and the other want to tune to a channel of vertical polarization.

  3. 3
    Rodrigo

    Olá Skooter, a few days ago a technician came and changed my STO LNB for a Broadband Dual LNB, but on the way out he put a antenna switch 3×4 and 10 then put one more meters to connect the HD Plus. But in none of these two keys my HD Slim works, some horizontal TPs are caretaker and if I try to turn on only the Slim looks like the LNB does not receive enough power and won't turn on, so I need Plus attached to the system. Is there anything I can do to connect my HD PLUS + HD SLIM in this Broadband Dual LNB? Remembering that I have 2 comutadoras 3 keys×4 the technician installed. I don't want to have to install another LNB antenna STO only for Slim. Thank you for attention.

    1. 3.1
      Skooter

      It's strange that call, for only 2 a single key points would be enough. Are two cables coming out from the LNB to the first key? And two cables coming out of the first key to the second key?

      1. 3.1.1
        Rodrigo

        Thanks for the reply Skooter. Yes, leave 2 LNB cable broadband and enter a 3 switch×4, that's where he gets more 3 cables, 1 for the HD Slim and 2 for other 3 switch×4 of more 2 for the HD Plus. The equipment Plus works perfectly with any kind of connection, but the Slim always loses some TPs in horizontal and signal so multiple channels are not tuned. Thank you for your attention.

        1. Skooter

          This second key seems to me unnecessary, could connect directly two cables of the first key in the decoder. But it was still to be working.
          The decoder Slim is configured to use broadband LNB?

          1. Rodrigo

            It's like that second serve key of “Amendment” for the cables that go to the HD Plus, I'm going to delete this key and try the Slim independent, without the Plus in the schema. Work?

          2. Skooter

            Hard to say, It's about to be working as well as it's, Although not the ideal.
            The decoder Slim is configured to use broadband LNB?
            The signal is strong in both?

          3. Rodrigo

            Yes, configured for wide band, I've done that reset with code 02468 also. The TPs usually stay between 95 a 120.
            The Plus signs are also in this average, but always with a tuner a bit stronger than the other when I check the rate of the signs. You need to wait for some time after the satellite configuration or should run immediately if I had everything right? (I'm sorry so many questions but you are helping me to clear my head). Thank you very much Skooter.

          4. Skooter

            After adjusting the decoder usually stay a few minutes receiving satellite Info, but all of a sudden be ready.
            Everything seems to be okay with your installation. Maybe a problem in decoding slim or even in any of the two keys?
            If the Plus can record one channel and tune in any other, then the LNB must be working properly.

  4. 4
    Francisco

    Hello! please, can you clarify if the old universal LNB; use it to use on my antenna. He has four outputs

    1. 4.1
      Skooter

      I think the old universal LNB is still working, but I cannot say until when.

  5. 5
    Charles Alves

    So I have a dual LNB Sky that long range , só uma pergunta eu não consigo achar o sinal da claro com ele !
    Ele só funciona com a Sky ?

    1. 5.1
      Skooter

      Yes, the sellers say that only works with the Sky.

  6. 6
    SBravia

    Good night! Get me out a doubt, Maybe you don't understand correctly. I have the unit SKY HDTV that old model, boxy. Caso queira colocar esse LNB Duplo Faixa Larga, vou precisar puxar mais um cabo para o meu aparelho ou só o que está já basta.

    1. 6.1
      Skooter

      Which LNB you currently have? And the decoder is the Plus?
      O Plus precisa de dois cabos para poder assistir um canal e gravar outro (ou gravar dois) at the same time.

      1. 6.1.1
        SBravia

        Good morning!

        Use 1 Sharp Universal Twin, It's not the Plus, is the older model, aquele que tem um HD de 500GB dentro.

        O meu interesse é apenas na TV.

        1. Skooter

          If you already use with only a cable with Sharp Universal Twin, You can stick with the double wide band. Para assistir TV um cabo só é suficiente.

          1. SBravia

            Cool, It all worked out.

            Seizing the opportunity, I use a diplexer to filter the digital tv signal + satellite, If you want to connect only 1 TV com o sinal digital, proceed as devo?

            Grateful for the attention

          2. Skooter

            Let me get this straight, você tem uma chave 3×4 junto às antenas misturando o sinal da Sky com o da TV aberta e um diplexer separando-os junto à sua TV, it is?

            Se for isso, para ligar mais uma TV você pode puxar um cabo de uma das saídas livres da chave 3×4 e ligar em outro diplexer, usando só a saída da antena terrestre para ligar na TV e deixando a da Sky livre.
            Creio que como alternativa ao diplexer você também pode usar um filtro DC.

          3. SBravia

            Excuse, I mean call 1 TV, because that Dilpexer already has another linked.

  7. 7
    SBravia

    Actually is the following: My SKY Receiver and TV in the room, are connected by a Diplexer (single cable) and that same cable, gostaria de saber se por exemplo, se eu colocar um divisor de alta no meio dele, só para mandar o sinal de TV para o meu quarto, que é aonde quero puxar o sinal de TV Digital, se eu irei ter perda de qualidade de sinal no satélite, devido a esse divisor no meio do caminho.

    Obs: Esse cabo está dentro de uma tubulação, que passa pelo meu quarto e vai para a sala, só que devido a falta de espaço na tubulação, não consigo passar outro de cabo de TV, por isso gostaria de utilizar o mesmo cabo.

    1. 7.1
      Skooter

      Has dividers -3 loss, 5dB, so I guess you will have some loss on the Yes satellite signal.
      Furthermore, you need another diplexer or DC filter between the cable and the second TV.

      1. 7.1.1
        SBravia

        Conclusion: Would then use 3 Diplexers and 1 Splitter.

        1. Skooter

          If you already have 2 diplexers that's right.
          I can't guarantee it's going to work, I never called so, but theoretically it's supposed to work.

          1. SBravia

            Beauty, Thank you very much for your time and patience.

  8. 8
    Other

    Good afternoon….I have a old sky plan with 6 appliances, 2 HDTV plus , 2 Zapper and 2 Slim…in my case if I change this broadband lnb, I would have to have 8 exits to the right receivers?(4 for the 2 plus + 4 for the 2 Zapper and slim) then I would need to have 3 comutadoras 3 keys×4 correct?? Sera that will work without much loss in signal???

    1. 8.1
      Skooter

      Yes, I believe that the scheme of installation is the same. Signal loss believe that has not, because each receiver will be sending current to feed the 3 keys×4 and amplify the signal.

  9. 9
    Ricardo

    Skooter, can you help me. I have a SKY receiver Model S12, eventually take this receiver for Beach. On the site I have a LNB STO, but now the SKY is changing to broadband. If I switch to the universal model, comes 2 antenna cables to receiver, but the receiver has only one entrance to the cable. Is there a key that I can use, to come 2 cables, and through this piece go a simple cable to the receiver?

    1. 9.1
      Skooter

      Ricardo,
      I don't know this receiver. He does not write, some?
      Nesse caso você só precisa de um cabo do LNB Universal ou faixa larga até o receptor. O receptor chaveia a polarização no LNB conforme o canal que você estiver vendo.

      1. 9.1.1
        Ricardo

        Skooter, the digital receiver thomson S12B model if u see on Google, you will see that has only one output. Eu tbem acho que só trocar o LNB na ponta para universal vai resolver. Quando levo o receptor para viagem ele da o erro, dizendo que precisa fazer uma atualização na minha antena. Pelo que eu li, poderia usar uma chave DiSEQ aonde tem os 2 cabos e para frente vai um cabo apenas. Atualmente eu tenho LNB Triax SDU.

        1. Skooter

          But all the receivers that do not write that I know has only one entry. You wouldn't have two. Os que gravam tem duas quando são dois sintonizadores (para gravar um canal e ver outro, ou gravar dois canais).
          A Sky deve ter atualizado o software dos receptores para dar essa mensagem de erro e forçar a mudança do LNB.
          Se você trocar o LNB e mudar a configuração no receptor para Faixa Larga deve funcionar.
          Mas já que é para trocar, acho melhor você já mudar para o Faixa Larga, pois o Universal deve parar de funcionar em algum futuro próximo.
          Eu acho que você não precisa de nenhuma chave. As duas saídas do LNB polarizam tanto horizontal quanto vertical. Para até dois receptores (ou um receptor com dois sintonizadores), não há necessidade de chaves.

          1. Ricardo

            Good morning, see the broadband LNB works on a frequency greater, each output that the LNB has is different, a is horizontal, e outra vertical. Therefore, eu acho que precisaria de alguma chave ou peça para chegue só 1 cabo até o receptor

          2. Ricardo

            https://http2.mlstatic.com/chave-comutadora-sky-3×4-podendo-substituir-diseqc-diplexer-D_NQ_NP_287501-MLB20358713288_072015-F.jpg
            Vou precisar dessa chave comutadora. See that one side is SAT IN and SAT IN 18V and 13V on RX1 turn digital receiver, e altero no receptor as configs para uso da faixa larga 😀

  10. 10
    Bruno

    Skooter, my friend has this lnb there and has a slim hdtv and a hdtv plus. Porém como ele só tem um cabo ligado no plus, não consegue gravar um canal e assistir outro. O que ele deve fazer nesse caso? Trocar por um lnb de mais saídas?

    antenna: http://i.imgur.com/1xUV6Lb.jpg

    lnb de 4 saídas que ele tem guardado: http://i.imgur.com/11LoJNI.jpg

    1. 10.1
      Skooter

      Bruno,

      Ele precisa colocar uma Switch 3×4.

  11. 11
    DDINOSS

    Good Night Skooter, I have one in my house a sky with dual lnb antenna wide band, com uma chave comutadora 3×4 ligando dos receptores, um hdtv plus e outro hd. Ocorre que recentemente fiz umas modificações nos cabos em minha casa e por isso tive que colocar umasemendascom aqueles conectores que rosqueiam de um lado e do outro, sendo que depois disso fiquei com problemas, pois ficou com sinal apenas nosinton. 2”. Then, fui na antena e desconectei um dos cabos ligados no lnb e voltou a ter sinal nos sinton. 1 e no sinton. 2, mas um dos transponder, o último do H, ficou zerado. Você sabe mais ou menos qual seria o problema e se há algum problema em deixar da forma que está.
    I thank.

    1. 11.1
      Skooter

      I can't tell you what would be the problem. The signal was very low before?
      Deixar só um cabo da antena até a chave 3×4 vai te trazer problemas, você não vai conseguir sintonizar um canal com polarização horizontal e outro com polarização vertical ao mesmo tempo.

      1. 11.1.1
        DDINOSS

        Boa tarde Skooter.
        Initially I would like to thank you for your attention. In fact the signal was very good, was 100. Já tinha acontecido algo semelhante outra vez e o problema foi com o lnbf, pois após a substituição voltou a normal. Mas não faz nem um ano que troquei, o que estou usando agora e relativamente novo. De fate, no receptor hdtv plus os canais estão normais, no outro receptor não estão sintonizando alguns canais. Ache que será necessário solicitar um concerto pela sky. Muito obrigado parceiro.

  12. 12
    rafael

    Boa tarde Skooter, I have two points of sky , a slim and a hd zapper, There's a NLD sdu installed, e há um um cabo da sky conectado em cada aparelho. Eu quero saber se, ao trocar para lnb duplo universal ,necessita passar algum cabo ou não? Thank you.

    1. 12.1
      Skooter

      Good afternoon, Rafael,
      Both the slim as the zapper only have a tuner, so if the current divider is near the LNB, o cabeamento provavelmente não muda. Apenas os dois cabos passam a ser ligados diretamente no LNB.

  13. 13
    Fernando Grimaldi

    Hello dear Skooter.
    Was trocarada the antenna here at home to the new SKY satellite.
    Good, a configuração do PLUS e dos dois ZAPPER que tenho no meu combo (TOTAL HD 2016) não é mais SDU e sim FAIXA LARGA.
    Quando os dois técnicos foram embora, mexi, remexi, fiz de tudo no meu PLUS e o mesmo agora não grava mais dois programas simultaneamente; a DUPLA MEMÓRIA também não funciona mais.
    Liguei para o técnico e ele disse que a SKY está fazendo isso por causa do SKY MEDIA CENTER que nem chegou aqui ainda (only has, como o próprio site diz, em São Paulo e Belo Horizonte).
    Entrei em contato com o 10611 e questionei sobre a não funcionalidade destes dois recursos (record 2 programas simultaneamente e dupla memória). A resposta foi que com a FAIXA LARGA, os dois cabos no PLUS servem agora um para canais SD e outro para HD e os serviços foram descontinuados e que devo procurar outros horários de exibição dos programas.
    Novamente fui mexer nos aparelhos e descobri que realmente procedia o que ela falou: tirei um cabo e apenas os canais SD pegavam, depois inverti e apenas ALGUNS em HD funcionavam.

    Antes um cabo só descia para o aparelho, sendo que havia um divisor onde uma ponta ia para entrada SAT 1 e outra ponta para SAT 2.
    E a configuração era SDU.

    Agora descem dois cabos, um para cada SAT. E a configuração é FAIXA LARGA.

    How do I re-record again simultaneously?

    Please, someone guide me.

    And the signal Rate, the tuner 2 points V(vertical) and (H)(speed) all RESET.

    1. 13.1
      Skooter

      Olá Fernando,

      I didn't know this feature of Double Memory, but I tested it and it worked.
      The recording of two channels at the same time keeps running.
      This Sky Media Center I don't know. Until I looked here but I don't understand how it's going to work.
      The configuration on my Broadband also decoders.

      What your package and which version of the software?
      Here the FULL MOVIE HD COMBO package 2017
      Software:
      Original Version: 0x8330
      Software: 0x8553, Qui 9/7, 2:20

      Signal rate both tuners get high values in vertical and horizontal.

      If they changed something, not affected me yet.

  14. 14
    Menoli

    Good night Skooter,

    I have the unit HDTV Plus and the problem is that I live in apt is it was only possible to pass a cable to device, today as they made a Division and called two cables in the apparatus, with this new LNB really need two cables, mesmo se não for mais funcionar a gravação simultânea?

    1. 14.1
      Skooter

      Good night Menoli,
      My HDTV Plus works if I leave with one cable only, mas sem os recursos de gravar dois canais ao mesmo tempo ou assistir um canal e gravar outro.

      1. 14.1.1
        Menoli

        Thanks for replying, so I'm going to have to keep it that way until you change, because 2 cables for the conduit that the MRV left impossible to pass.

  15. 15
    Carlos

    Good afternoon Scooter you know tell me if I can use the Dual LNB high band(Sky) pirate devices???

    1. 15.1
      Skooter

      Good evening Carlos,
      Not tell you.

  16. 16
    Alan Adams

    Good morning,
    There've been times staff receiving the message from SKY : A SKY precisa fazer uma atualização tecnologica gratuita em sua casa ligue para o 0800 e informe o código 55.Moro em condomínio e a antena é compartilhada para todos. Hoje pela manhã ficou aparecendo a mensagem procurando sinal de satelite in 1. What should I do? Meu receptor é o Zapper HD.

    1. 16.1
      Skooter

      Good afternoon Alan,
      Have you called in 0800 and informed the code 55?

  17. 17
    LEANDRO HARDBEANS DE OLIVEIRA

    After changing the LNB to broadband, need to do anything else as redirect antenna or change some setting in the HDTV receiver PLUS ?

    1. 17.1
      Skooter

      Yes, the decoder there is an option to select the type of LNB. You need to select “Wide Band”.

  18. 18
    Marcelo

    Bom dia Skooter,

    I have the plus hdtv, I moved into an apartment where the building already has a cable system, porem só tem um cabo para o apto, neste caso só consigo ligar em uma das entradas de SAT, nao tendo como utilizar o recurso de gravar um canal e assistir um outro ao mesmo tempo. Para ter novamente este recurso é preciso puxar um novo cabo la de cima do predio ?

    ou consigo ligar um divisor dentro de casa neste cabo para ligar em SAT 1 e a outra saida em SAT2 ?? neste caso funcionaria !? teria de mudar a configuracao do aparelho para SDU ?
    o meu esta em faixa larga.

    thank you!

    1. 18.1
      Skooter

      Good morning Marcelo,
      Do you know what type of LNB the building uses? If the Sto you can by the splitter.
      Se for Universal ou Faixa Larga teria que puxar outro cabo a partir da chave 3×4 (ou equivalente) mais próxima.

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