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May 11 2016

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Framemeister Mini XRGB-Firmware 2.03

A Micomsoft released today version 2.03 do firmware from the Framemeister XRGB Mini. As already I mentioned in last article update, I've been enjoying watching the Micomsoft continues working to include new features in Framemeister XRGB Mini, What helps in the perception that the investment was worth it.

Unfortunately the list of changes from version 2.03 It is only in Japanese. Domino not the language, so the only way to get an idea of what are the changes with this automatic translation:

It includes changes such as OSD menu. Please, check the following contents before upgrading.
11 may 2016 fixed:
<CPU ver. 2.03>
■ improved color reproducibility in time of RGB input. ■ was to adjust the synchronization of the HDMI output. ■ Added “Video settings” from the main menu. Function in “Video settings” is effective only for composite video and S-video. ■ Added “video_format” in “Video settings”.  ”Video_format” is the ability to define the range of automatically recognize the type of video format. STD: NTSC and PAL (B / L / I / H) to identify the method. EXT: You can identify, In addition to the above NTSC443, PAL (M / N / 60) method. ※ Due to the nature of each format and video game consoles, the left and up and down the noise image on the screen and can be displayed. If these symptoms are worrisome, Please elaborate sorry to bother you, but using the “input horizontal position” and “vertical position of entry” or other work settings perform the screen adjustment. ■ Added “PEDESTAL_LV (pedestal level)” for the “video settings” inside.  ”PEDESTAL_LV” it is, for example, NTSC M (USA) and NTSC MJ as can be seen in the differences (as Japan), intended to change the level of black reference (not the gamma function).This feature is common, regardless of the format, as NTSC / PAL. OFF: to illuminate the dark part. For example, video content and equipment of Japanese specification (NTSC MJ), If you want to connect the TV is recommended OFF. However, because the dark areas brighter, There are times when the noise at the time of the conversion / (D) is visible on the screen. On: For example, USA content and video equipment specification, If you want to connect the tv to recommend ON. ■ Added “C_SHARP_LV” in “Video settings”. ”C_SHARP_LV” is the ability to adjust the converter changes the / D of the chrominance signal (color signal). When adjusting, You can show the color limit Sharp. ■ Added “MANUAL_Y_FILTER” in “Video settings”.  ”MANUAL_Y_FILTER” is the ability to select the Y signal filter bandwidth of the converter / D. Since it depends on the video equipment of signal ※, the image quality may vary depending on the equipment in the same environment. At1: is Automatic Filter (Broadband). AT2: is Automatic Filter (narrow band: standard). MANUAL: Use the following settings: “FILTER_LEVEL”.■ Added “_ level FILTER” to “video settings” inside.”FILTER_LEVEL” can be set when the definition of “MANUAL_Y_FILTER” above is defined as “MANUAL”. When handling the adjustment bar, You can adjust the width of the signal Y filter of the converter / D in the manual. Since it depends on the video signal equipment, the image quality may vary depending on the equipment in the same environment.

You can Download version 2.03 Micomsoft's site directly.

Framemeister XRGB Mini

Framemeister XRGB Mini

Update (16/05/2016): Veja o vídeo que fiz do teste do novo firmware:

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  1. 1
    Cafe Days

    Fala Skooter. Finally got my Framemeister that I imported from Japan XRGB. I got on ebay for 1.200 via EMS from Japan. Não taxou e chegou muito rápido, 10 dias até a minha residência. Porém quando liguei aqui nos meus consoles deu aquela bronca do sistema de cor, pois os consoles em PAL-M ficaram Preto e Branco. Aí pensei que atualizando o firmware resolvesse, porém não estou conseguindo. Coloquei a pasta no cartão de memória e não sei como proceder. Será que podes me ajudar? O tutorial do site em japonês não entendo nada 🙁 Obrigado amigo!

    1. 1.1
      ricardocmenezes

      Managed to solve the problem?

  2. 2
    Cafe Days

    Olá Skooter. I managed to update the Firmware for the 2.03 but the picture remains black and white consoles in PAL-M. Você fez alguma configuração no menu? Estou preocupado 🙁

    1. 2.1
      Skooter

      Hello Cafe Days,

      I didn't make any special configuration. You are testing in RGB or in other entries? Here the two consoles PAL-M (Playstation One e Super Nintendo) estão ligados via RGB.

      Ainda não tive tempo para testar o firmware 2.03, but from what I understand now there is an option that needs to be adjusted so that the PAL-M is recognized. This part:

      Added "video_format" in "display settings". "Video_format" is the ability to define the range of automatically recognize the type of video format. STD: NTSC and PAL (B / L / I / H) to identify the method. EXT: You can identify, In addition to the above NTSC443, PAL (M / N / 60) method.’

  3. 3
    Cafe Days

    Ola Skooter,

    Thank you very much for your attention.
    The RGB cable Play 1 you got where?

    Really have the option in “Video Set” -> “Video Format” and there you can choose between “Standard” (NTSC and PAL [B/L/I/H]) or “Ext” (PAL (M/N/60).
    However my video games are still not getting, only quick and colorful on the screen glitches with the normal sound. All were NTSC but have been transcoded to PAL-M by former owner. Now I have to retranscodificar, in other words, go back to the original state in NTSC.
    Ultimately… My saga continues. Look who is already a large and lengthy fight.
    Antes do upscaler eu tinha comprado uma TV japonesa de baixa resolução mas que chegou quebrada do Japão 🙁
    Tomara que com o upscaler eu consiga finalmente jogar meus consoles antigos, claro após fazer os reparos que citei acima. Haja tempo e dinheiro. ;(
    Valeu amigo!

    1. 3.1
      Skooter

      Ola Cafe Days,

      The cabo RGB do Playstation eu comprei no eBay com a vendedora retro_console_accessories.

      Meu Playstation e meu Super Nintendo também eram NTSC e foram transcodificados para PAL-M. Seus consoles foram todos transcodificados pela mesma pessoa? Será que eles estão gerando um sinal um pouco fora de padrão que o Framemeister não reconhece?

      1. 3.1.1
        Cafe Days

        Yeah, I thought the same thing.
        Unfortunately I already bought so consoles, the Free Market.
        Vou mandar retirar essas transcodificação e voltar pro modo original (NTSC).
        Talvez dessa forma volte a funcionar no Framemeister.
        Thanks again! Seu blog é único cara.
        Congratulations for the work.

        1. Skooter

          If you are still using no cables RGB, Maybe we should wait before we move on the Islands. Meu Super Nintendo tem a transcodificação meio zoada no vídeo composto, as vezes some as cores, deve ser assim desde que ganhei, mas eu não percebia porque usava RF. Só fui perceber quando tive a primeira TV com entrada de vídeo composto. Quando comprei o cabo RGB achei que isso seria um problema, mas felizmente o problema não afeta o RGB.

  4. 4
    Cafe Days

    Skooter,

    Qual cabo deve funcionar no XRGB Framemeister com PS One?

    Link 1
    https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/sony-playstation-1-2-ps1-ps2-rgb-scart-cable-lead-rca-sound

    or

    Link 2
    https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/sony-playstation-1-2-ps1-ps2-rgb-scart-cable-lead

    Welcome,
    Carlos

    1. 4.1
      Skooter

      Ola Carlos,

      I think both serve, the difference seems to be just the two RCA plugs for sound that exist only in first.

  5. 5
    Cafe Days

    Thank you very much Skooter.
    I ended up ordering (retrogammingcables) more about RGB cable to test with the transcoded audio consoles (Nintendo 64, Nintendinho and Ps One) que não pegam no vídeo composto. Quando chegar eu passo aqui para relatar minha experiência. Enquanto isto vou jogando meu Super Famicon com cabo RGB. A imagem é fenomenal. Uma pena que o GameCube (modelo americano) não tem saída nativa RGB e o cabo componente dele é uma facada. 🙁

    Hug!

    1. 5.1
      Skooter

      I think I'm going to follow and also buy a new cable for the Playstation on Retro Gaming Cables. Today I went to test the new firmware and I noticed that the sound on the left side is no longer coming out. I will try to fix, but as the plug is all glued maybe not right.

      I was wondering and I suspect that there is no difference between NTSC and PAL-M when it comes to RGB. I've tried confirm that, but I have not found information. I think that's because the difference between NTSC and PAL-M is only on subcarrier carrying the chrominance signal. It makes a difference when it comes to composite video and S-Video, but is it still makes a difference when it comes to RGB color components where they're all separated?

      Note that on the screen Framemeister status, It shows the colors when the source system's S-Video or composite video. My Atari 2600, for example, shows NTSC-J (I don't know why it's not identifying as NSTC-M that would be the correct, but the difference is small). But when the source is RGB, It does not show anything about color system. On the other hand, my old upscaler showed PAL-M and NTSC for my consoles even in RGB, but I suspect he was getting that information from the composite video signal, who was also along on the SCART cable.

      []s

      1. 5.1.1
        gamescore

        Hello okay friend?,I have a framemeister for some time and I always try to get quality cables tb. The retrogamecables is the best option at the moment because the seller of these cables on ebay looks like does not sell any more of them unfortunately. Pro ps1 you nominate the luma sync . Excellent cable!

        1. Skooter

          I preferred the seller's eBay cables at the time because they are also Sync on Luma and bought with the upgrade to mini-coaxial (each driver with their own individual armor). Robert, the Retro Gaming Cables, is promising to launch this upgrade for some time (He calls the pack-a-punch), but I asked yesterday and he said he will only leave after July. For now he just does the Mega Drive and Super Nintendo with individual armor (I have the Mega Drive). So I want to try to fix my current cable, But if it doesn't work I'll buy one of Robert without shielding even. For now I'm using my older cable (da Play-Asia), What is Sync-on-Composite and I had to solder a resistor to function.

          1. Alessandro Lamarte

            From what I saw the update 2.03 brought improvements in RGB video output. you notice if the brightness is high? so I did the update and I called the snes for example in the same level of brightness went gray the corners of the screen and I had to lower the level to be in the same way as before.

          2. Skooter

            Yes, I noticed that the black was kind of gray. Then I entered in HDMI_SET-OUTPUT_COLOR and changed my AUTO > to RGB and the colors are back to normal.
            I just don't remember how was this option before upgrading.

          3. gamescore

            Thank you very much for the tip friend. I actually thought I was with some error on my update. If I'm not mistaken, before was in Auto msm, However this new firmware must have adjusted something on video output. Set here and returned to normal tb. It's very cool to see the Framemeister becoming popular here in Brazil! Thank you friend!

          4. gamescore

            You ever notice if even the megadrive 1 with superior audio and retrogamecables audio cables still with a buzz? I have the mega 1 JP and genesis and the tec toy III both are with this slight buzz on the audio. When increased considerably the sound I hear clearly that ringing. Or will my three consoles are jammed?

          5. Skooter

            I didn't notice. Some tinnitus always has, because those chips was down old SNR to current standards. In the Mega Drive III Tec Toy I remember that appeared a most remarkable noise when the screen was white, something that in Genesis does not happen. You can take a look at my recorded videos of the Mega Drive with the Framemeister to see if you can find the same buzz. If you do please let me know the result.

  6. 6
    gamescore

    Hello okay friend?,I have a framemeister for some time and I always try to get quality cables tb. The retrogamecables is the best option at the moment because the seller of these cables on ebay looks like does not sell any more of them unfortunately. Pro ps1 you nominate the luma sync . Excellent cable!

  7. 7
    Mauritius

    Wave! I also have a Framemeister and it is complicated to set up. I am after pre settings- ready. I found this website that has several:

    http://www.firebrandx.com/pixelpurist.html

    (down to the end with the link to lower them).

    You have somewhere else to download other? all these are for 1080 p but wanted to test 720 p also to see how it looks.

    See

    Mauritius

    1. 7.1
      Skooter

      Hi Mani,

      I'm not as purist as FirebrandX. Usually just put the IMAGE_MODE in PICTURE and the AUTO_SCALER in GAME. I leave the TV set not to cut edges and in GAME mode. Don't use scanlines and don't usually give much importance if each pixel of the console not be perfectly aligned with the TV or if there any horizontal border, Since the aspect 4:3 to be kept.

      But I appreciate the link and downloaded the settings. Vou testar para ver se encontro alguma diferença que faça valer a pena ter que lidar com perfis.

      1. 7.1.1
        Mauritius

        Olá Skooter! I'm just looking for other settings because these Profiles do not fill the screen. Claro que não ligo para uma barra pequena mas algumas configurações deixam a tela muito pequena em troca do pixel Perfect.

  8. 8
    Cafe Days

    Someone there did the mod Nintendo RGB 64 (Ths7314) and it didn't work the plug in Framemeister? Eu sou um dos contemplados e não sei se foi erro do mod ou se o cabo que to usando não é o ideal (cabo com c-sync).

    O cabo que tentei usar foi comprado na Retrogammingcables.
    O modelo é esse: https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/super-nintendo-entertainment-system-famicom-snes-n64-rgb-av-scart-cable-ntsc-tv-lead-wire-cord

    Por isto encomendei outro cabo (sync-on-luma) para ver se é isto:
    https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/nintendo/n64/nintendo-N64-luma-csync-rgb-av-scart-cable-lead-cord-for-sale

    Se alguém passou por isto, pelo amor de deus me ajude 🙂

    1. 8.1
      Mauritius

      Hello coffee!

      It is very rare for an n64 that has pin csync 3 the multiout. Only the cpu reviews-01, CPU-02 and some cpu-03. Você vai ter que usar o sync on luma mesmo. Veja a explicação aqui:

      http://retrorgb.com/n64cablecsync.html

      Inclusive recomendo este site. Tem informações de todos consoles para extrair rgb! Very good indeed.

  9. 9
    gamescore

    I follow this channel on youtube and there it does exactly what you're looking for. He leaves the image in the best possible way by framemeister and every console have a comfiguração specifies. Helped me a lot before and after purchasing it. In the videos he even shows the best cables to buy. The only thing I can't use that it always indicates and zoom mode. I believe it to be effective for those who have a small monitor in this mode. Even bought the Toro box of Dreamcast by just view these videos. And the image is perfect ….. Hope you can help https://youtu.be/LYOQbjKyBnw

    1. 9.1
      Mauritius

      Cool. I'm going to watch some Episodes. Thanks for the tip!

    2. 9.2
      Skooter

      I knew the channel, but I've never tested your settings. Yesterday I tried the Playstation, but I didn't like the results.
      A/D Level I found. Brightness 2 points above the standard and Red 3 points below makes no significant difference.
      Change the Auto by H_Scaler in Scaler 5 and V_Scaler in 6 gave the same, I didn't notice any difference.
      Finally the zoom was what ruined, cutting a few rows of pixels at the top and bottom.
      I still need to test the other consoles, but at least for the Playstation I still prefer keeping the default setting.

  10. 10
    ricardocmenezes

    I bought the Framemeister and all my consoles are Brazilians, PAL-m, I tested the Sega Genesis tectoy, the super nintendo and the nintendo gradiente 64 gradient… all of them are with black and white image in standard setting and when I switch to EXT appear a lot of colorful glitchs… I've tried everything and nothing works… I am very upset because I think I lost my money….

    obs: Super nintendo and nintendo 64 I am using s video cable, and the mega drive euro scart… can anyone help me?

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