jan 27 2011

DealExtreme: Transmitter / Receiver A / V Extender with Wireless Remote Control 5.8GHz Pakite PAT-530

Hello Skooter Blog readers. Today I talk about Transmitter / Receiver A / V Extender with Wireless Remote Control 5.8GHz Pakite PAT-530 (PAT-530 5.8GHz Wireless A/V STB Transmitter/Receiver with IR Signal Extension Wire Set (Blue)) acquired on DealExtreme. This kit, manufactured by Pakite, model PAT-530 allows you to transmit video and stereo audio wirelessly, from a DVD player and / or a satellite receiver (Sky, etc.) or any other source of audio / video you want to a TV located in another location of the house, without the necessity of running wires, including transmitting the signal from the audio and video receiver's remote control to the transmitter, so that you can change channels and perform other operations without going to the site of origin of the signal equipment.

Caixa do Transmissor/Receptor A/V Sem Fio com Extensor de Controle Remoto 5.8GHz Pakite PAT-530

Box Transmitter / Receiver A / V Extender with Wireless Remote Control 5.8GHz Pakite PAT-530

I had purchased a DealExtreme kit in these two years ago, manufactured by Gadmei, about which I wrote an article here on Skooter Blog. I use it to bring the signal from Sky from one room to the office, making a slave point. The main difference is that it uses the 2.4GHz ISM band, while this Transmitter / Receiver Pakite in banda de utiliza 5.8GHz ISM. The Gadmei still working fine, but has the drawback that suffer interference from other devices that also operate in the 2.4GHz band. Here this problem is maximized because the WiFi router is right next to the TV receiver, the computer with your Bluetooth dongle is also close, and just behind a wall for a microwave oven. With all this the receiver suffers from quite interference and it is very difficult to adjust a position that minimizes the problem. Furthermore, the transmitter does not allow much mobility by having to stay in the exact position (difficult to find) on top of the Sky decoder so you can transmit the remote control signal, or just ahead of the decoder (easier to adjust), so that the juggling must be made solely with the receiver.

Parte traseira da caixa do Transmissor/Receptor A/V Sem Fio com Extensor de Controle Remoto 5.8GHz Pakite PAT-530

Rear Box Transmitter / Receiver A / V Extender with Wireless Remote Control 5.8GHz Pakite PAT-530

The problem of increased interference after I bought a router Netgear WNDR3700 eBay no, a router excellent, dual band 802.11n, reaching 300Mbps. But, he seems to miss some noise (harmonic?) even channels that are not operating, further complicating the task of finding a position for the A / V receiver that does not receive interference.

Abrindo a caixa do Transmissor/Receptor A/V Sem Fio com Extensor de Controle Remoto 5.8GHz Pakite PAT-530

Opening the box Transmitter / Receiver A / V Extender with Wireless Remote Control 5.8GHz Pakite PAT-530

For my tests, the Netgear WNDR3700 provides the best signal here in canal 1 do WiFi. My previous router, a 3Com, só permitia or channel bonding (using more than one channel to increase the bandwidth) no channel 6, so I never tested the best channel for this environment. Placing Netgear WNDR3700 no channel 1, with the channel 5 NIM (to provide length of band maior), the best channel for the A / V receiver would be the 4 (note that the frequencies of channels WiFi does not match the frequencies of the channels of the transmitter / receiver A / V, therefore there is no relationship between the numberings). However channel 4 the receiver is receiving greater interference from microwave, when it is in operation. The solution is to put the Netgear WNDR3700 no channel 6, with the channel 10 NIM, and let the receiver A / V channel 1, thus minimizes the interference from WiFi and microwave. But it is worth noting that the channel 6 not so good for the WiFi here, There is even a neighbor using the same channel on the router and the signal it gets here, therefore channel 6 (and its adjacent, since the channels WiFi is some overlap) is not the best option. Added to the problems with the WiFi router and microwave, there's also Bluetooth dongles that divide the whole spectrum in 2.4GHz ISM 80 channels, jumping on them all during transmission, then it is impossible to choose a channel on the receiver to run interference for Bluetooth. And I like to leave the Bluetooth on the phone to read and reply to SMS via computer, when I'm using it, since typing SMS on mobile is time consuming and boring.

Transmissor, Receptor e Fontes de Alimentação do kit Transmissor/Receptor A/V Sem Fio com Extensor de Controle Remoto 5.8GHz Pakite PAT-530

Transmitter, Receiver and Power Supplies Kit Transmitter / Receiver A / V Extender with Wireless Remote Control 5.8GHz Pakite PAT-530

Despite the possible interference, the Transmitter / receiver Gadmei works well most of the time, since bem positioned. I knew for a permanent solution I would need a transmitter / receiver that operates on another frequency. But in DealExtreme only had transmitters / receivers of 2.4 GHz, and prices in other stores such equipment is prohibitive. Ate that, finally, in November 2010 came the Transmitter / Receiver Pakite the list of new products, with transmission in the 5.8 GHz ISM band, and decided to buy it without delay.

Parte traseira do Transmissor, Receptor e Fontes de Alimentação do kit Transmissor/Receptor A/V Sem Fio com Extensor de Controle Remoto 5.8GHz Pakite PAT-530

Rear Transmitter, Receiver and Power Supplies Kit Transmitter / Receiver A / V Extender with Wireless Remote Control 5.8GHz Pakite PAT-530

The Transmitter / Receiver Pakite operates in the frequency range of 5.8 GHz ISM, with 8 channels to the user's choice, which is always useful to try to find a band that is not being used on site. Despite the band 5,8 Be less congested GHz, 's WiFi routers that work in this frequency (my Netgear WNDR3700 is one of). It is advantageous to let the two bands enabled and use of 5 GHz devices us to suportam, to have less interference and therefore higher bandwidth. In addition to routers, some cordless phones and other equipment also use the 5.8 GHz band. Here is thankfully only my router, using channels 153 and 149 (which is centered on 5,765 E GHz 5,745 GHz, respectively), then most of the band is vacant. As for Telefones, who are purchasing a new wireless phone today should opt for models with DECT technology 6.0, which uses digital transmission in the 1.9 GHz band, which is not used by other equipment.

Cabos de audio e video e o extensor do LED infravermelho de saída do sinal do controle remoto

Cables audio and video extender and infrared LED output signal from the remote control

The Transmitter / Receiver Pakite also has a remote control extender, so that the remote control signal is transmitted from the receiver to the transmitter, allowing use of the remote satellite receiver, DVD player, etc. to control it despite being in another room. The infrared transmitter operates at 433MHz band (the same as the Gadmei), and is independent of the video and audio transmitter, including having a separate antenna. With the Pakite is much easier to use this function, because besides the infrared LEDs on the front of the device (for it to be placed on the apparatus that will control) There is also a cable of about 1 meters long with an infrared LED in the tip. This cable can be plugged into the back of the unit and the LED transmitter positioned in front of the device to be controlled. Using this extender did not have any trouble finding a suitable position for the infrared LED, just put it a few feet from the transmitter and already hit the first. The remote control being used by the receiver did not miss any time.

O transmissor do kit posicionado sobre uma TV para ficar em um ponto mais alto

The transmitter kit positioned on a TV to stay on higher ground

The receiver has a blue LED that indicates it is connected and one blue LED that lights up when it receives the remote control signal. The transmitter, analogously, has a blue LED to indicate operation, and a second blue LED that lights up when it receives the remote control signal at the receiver, to transmit to the device which is connected to it. Strangely this time LED lights without any activity that is occurring with the remote control with the receiver, which may indicate that there is some interference in the frequency of 433MHz. This alleged interference does not disturb the functioning of Transmitter / Receiver Pakite, but can disrupt the operation of the remote control of other equipment that are close to the transmitter due to the crossing of the infrared signals. Here it happened to a digital TV receiver of Visiontec (VT7200E) on a few occasions, but this occurred for a number of factors: the Transmitter Pakite is on the TV to stay at a greater height, digital converter is at the foot of the TV and the remote control VT7200E is a very bad (must have an infrared LED weak) that only works aimed directly pro converter. Hardly others have a combination of factors and also similar interference on the same frequency, then I think this problem is rare. And anyway this is only a problem if interference occurs at the exact moment we are using the remote, and in this case just press the button again.

LED infravermelho do extensor em frente ao decoder da Sky, funcionamento perfeito na retransmissão dos sinais do controle remoto

LED infrared extender in front of the Sky decoder, perfect operation of the relay remote control signals

As in Gadmei, there are no restrictions on the color systems Transmitter / Receiver Pakite. It transmits an input signal as only puts the audio signal in stereo and composite video in analog carrier at the transmitter, and does the opposite receiver. Thus the Transmitter / Receiver Pakite should work on PAL-M, NTSC, or any other system used in color composite video signal.

A TV com o receptor do kit Transmissor/Receptor A/V Sem Fio com Extensor de Controle Remoto 5.8GHz Pakite PAT-530

A TV with receiver kit Transmitter / Receiver A / V Extender with Wireless Remote Control 5.8GHz Pakite PAT-530

The Transmitter / Receiver Pakite comes from two sources bivolt, that accept input 100-240V 50/60Hz, and provide output 5V 1A. Therefore, should work anywhere in the world without major problems, provided there is an outlet adapter plugs to connect the U.S. standard (those two pins in parallel planes, very common in Brazil and ignored by staff who did this damn Brazilian standard highly incompatible).

A TV com o receptor do kit Transmissor/Receptor A/V Sem Fio com Extensor de Controle Remoto 5.8GHz Pakite PAT-530

A TV with receiver kit Transmitter / Receiver A / V Extender with Wireless Remote Control 5.8GHz Pakite PAT-530

Also accompanying the Transmitter / Receiver Pakite two triple RCA cables, one for the transmitter and for the receiver. The manual that comes with the unit is in English, a great advantage for those, I like, can not read Chinese. And who can not read English also need not worry because the installation is trivial and anyone who has ever installed a VCR / DVD will be able to do it.

The Gadmei has 4 selectable channels in the 2.4 GHz band, What is the most you can put in this ISM band using 18MHz channels and nonoverlapping. Some devices have more channels, but using overlay or by using frequencies that can not be used in most countries. The Transmitter / Receiver Pakite offers 8 channels in the 5.8 GHz band, What is more spacious, but the manual does not say what are the frequencies that correspond to each. I even tried to check with the manufacturer, but the friendly service of chinesinha Pakite Nor was this information, then it remains unknown.

To select the 8 channels exist 4 rocker switches at the rear of the transmitter and receiver, that should be with the same combination in both devices. Here comes one more unknown, how to select each channel? As 4 rocker switches give a total of 16 combinations, and all 16 combinations work. So I figured there would be repeated combinations, but in my tests I could not find any repetition. Of course not all tested 120 Combinations of pairs of combinations of different keys, but I tested in combinations not seen that often resulted in equal. So why the manufacturer advertises the product as having only 8 channels instead of 16 channels? Perhaps because the Transmitter / Receiver Pakite offers 8 non-overlapping channels, in other words, the 8 additional channels overlaps parts of the frequencies of the main channels, and that I could observe on the tests, because some combinations of channels showed images and sound noisy but identifiable, showing that they were overlapping channels with some.

Installed or Transmitter / Receiver Pakite, I did the test of 16 combinations (or mostly, I think I have not tested all) and what seemed to me the best was obtained with only the third key down and the other up keys. Curiously, was this configuration that both the transmitter and receiver come. The sound was perfect, the selected channel does not present as inteferências Gadmei presented (estalos not som, loud noise in the image sporadically), But the image has left a little to be desired, There is a small constant noise in the image, no shouting, but enough to be noticed on a CRT TV 20 inches. A noise is lower than in nearly all open channels that receive here, then I would say that the image of Pakite is perfectly “watchable”. But it is worth noting that the Gadmei under optimal conditions (without any interference, all other appliances off) had a completely clean. How this little noise Pakite bother unless crackles and noises in inteferência Gadmei, I will keep Pakite installed.

The tests I mentioned in the last paragraph were done with a distance of about 5 meters only, but with a wall and a cabinet in the path. I then decided to test the transmission with transmitter and receiver placed side by side. To my surprise the noise continued, then I think we can assume that it is characteristic of this product. It is likely that higher quality devices (and more expensive) minimize this problem, but I am convinced that only a transmitter / receiver digital account would solve the problem. Of course the cost of such a household is infeasible, then the alternative for a more perfect would even use cables.

The next test was to a greater distance, of uns 15 or 20 meters with some 4 or 5 walls in the way, some of which would be traversed transversely. The result was that sound and image simply not arrived. It is noteworthy that in a test in those conditions, done 2 years ago, the image of Gadmei arrived somewhat noisy, but arrived. Of course we have to consider that the wave of 2.4 GHz through obstacles more easily than the wave of 5.8 GHz, which has smaller length (~ 12cm to 2.4 GHz and 5.8 GHz to ~ 5cm).

The manual says that the distance for horizontal transmission without barriers PAT-530 is ≤ 200m. This measure is somewhat vague, since 1m is also something less than or equal to 200m. The manual also cites an alleged PAT-520 whose distance for horizontal transmission without barriers is ≤ 100m, and a PAT-540 that the measure is ≤ 300m. But apparently these models were not released, because there is nothing about them on the manufacturer's website. Anyway it is expected that in practice the maximum distance is far from it.

I can conclude that the Transmitter / Receiver Pakite is a good stop-gap for those who want to make a point of slave cable / satellite or something wirelessly. Especially for those who already have other devices using the 2.4 GHz band and need a solution that uses less congested frequencies, As is the case of 5.8 GHz. It is not the recommended solution for those who want a perfect picture or for longer distances or with many barriers.

And now I will speak of purchase: She was held on 25/11/2010, submission was made 29/11. The China Post says the package left China in 06/12, and only in 19/01/2011 is that it appeared as received in Brazil, and 3 days after, in 24/01 it was delivered, no taxes. The package staying 1 months stopped in Brazil (probably blame the IRS) unfortunately is common this time of Christmas. Now things appear in January already be normalized, with packages arriving back in 2 or 3 weeks. Here is the tracking China Post:

item No.YearStatusDestination CountryLocationDate
RR895907347CN2010departure from outward office of exchangeBRAZIL2010-12-06
RR895907347CN2011arrival at inward office of exchangeBRAZIL2011-01-19

And behold tracking Postal in Brazil:

DataLocalSituation
24/01/2011 18:35CSD (Removed)Delivered
24/01/2011 09:12CSD (Removed)Out for delivery
19/01/2011 14:11BRAZIL – BRAZIL / XXAwarded
Received / Brazil
06/12/2010 08:59CHINA – CHINA/XXRouted
In transit to BRAZIL – BRAZIL / XX
03/12/2010 01:50CHINA – CHINA/XXPosted

The packet came as described “VIDEO KIT”, declared as weight 660 grams, and declared value of $19,78 USD (U.S. dollars two). Despite the box to be somewhat big girl, the package was not taxed.

Pacote da DealExtreme com o Transmissor/Receptor A/V Sem Fio com Extensor de Controle Remoto 5.8GHz Pakite PAT-530

DealExtreme package with Transmitter / Receiver A / V Extender with Wireless Remote Control 5.8GHz Pakite PAT-530

Pacote da DealExtreme com o Transmissor/Receptor A/V Sem Fio com Extensor de Controle Remoto 5.8GHz Pakite PAT-530

DealExtreme package with Transmitter / Receiver A / V Extender with Wireless Remote Control 5.8GHz Pakite PAT-530

And I close my article on the Transmitter / Receiver A / V Extender with Wireless Remote Control 5.8GHz Pakite PAT-530 (PAT-530 5.8GHz Wireless A/V STB Transmitter/Receiver with IR Signal Extension Wire Set (Blue)) Here. If you also want to shop in DealExtreme, directly from Hong Kong, click here and good shopping.

Update (10/05/2011): Added a video demonstrating the Transmitter / Receiver A / V Extender with Wireless Remote Control 5.8GHz Pakite PAT-530 (PAT-530 5.8GHz Wireless A/V STB Transmitter/Receiver with IR Signal Extension Wire Set (Blue)):

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Dionatan
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Dionatan

I was very interested in buying this product, could you tell me in an LCD TV the picture is good? He'll be around 8 meters away is a good sign? in my home I have a router and a cordless phone with both 2.4 GHz frequency, which of the two models that you have had and you think best suitable for me in sound and picture quality.

vlw

Dionatan
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Dionatan

Skooter q vlw think I will buy a model that you bought this 5.8GHz

Gabriel Braga
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Gabriel Braga

Skooter, I would like to use this scheme here at home, But as I want to retransmit the signal is HD will choose to take the image with those of HDMI extender via Cat5, but still will need a IR extender signal to command the decoder. I searched on DX and found nothing similar, do you know where I can find only the IR signal extender?

I follow your site muiiito time, never commented but I think the excellent blog. Vivo buying things in DX, Focal also.

Hugs…

Dionatan
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Dionatan

Gabriel Achei eat extensor http://avlife.com.br/produtos/extensores/extensor-hdmi+ir-100m.php more encronteri not any site that sells.

Skooter you could post some pictures of your TV q receives its signal, me see if there's a lot of signal loss or noise in these quotes above image q vc.

vlw

Dionatan
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Dionatan

then these pictures are from TV that receives the signal?

Dionatan
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Dionatan

so I guess qa loss of image quality should be little, as between 2 tvs you notice much difference? in my case is vai 8 feet away as tvs

Samuca
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Samuca

You only have 1 TV here at home that does not have wdtvlive …. and found the solution interesting to put in room, but honestly for that price I gave 1 discouraged =(

Although it has 1 room here who does not have cable tv, 'll buy uhaehuaehuae'm crazy.

Samuca
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Samuca

Bought, e referal usado 😉

Samuca
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Samuca

Heck, I buy when I'm already looking forward, e agora que eu li isso 🙁 NOTICE:DealExtreme will temporarily pause from Feb 1st, 2011 to Feb 7th, 2011 for Chinese Lunar New Year Holiday. Please click here for more detail.

Anderson Brito
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Face, in my case is more or less 10 m and has a wall.
I want to use for an external area (barbecue)
which do you recommend?

BROTHER S.G. FIELDS
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HAVE A FAT-530 (BLUE) AND IT WORKS PERFECT, NO NOISE AND EXCELLENT PICTURE, CARRY THE RECEIVER TO ANY ROOM OF THE HOUSE WITHOUT PROBLEMS.

Fabio Pinto
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Fabio Pinto

Olá Skooter, in 5 January 2011, I read your article on the Gadmei and really liked your review, but I realized I had many home appliances with the same frequency and after so venturing on the Free Market and pioneer in the Santa Ifigência SP, I decided to enter the site from Deal Extreme and found this kit and bought Pakite.

I'll install it today to put a point of slave Sky, I will do tests and then comment here.

Fabio Pinto
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Fabio Pinto
Tudo bem Skooter. Well installed with a certain delay, Sky because staff did not attend on the appointed day. Neither they knew this type of device. The installation was uneventful, logo image appeared, but with some interference that were disappearing as I econtrava better positioning. Speaking of defects initially, actually after removing all that noise interference exists that you had already spoken, should probably be some kind of interference or even some component due to the transmission of waves. The noise is very faint, not enough to bother, but is visible to the eye and more trained does not go unnoticed. But not enough to discourage the equipment. Another defect that was corrected already realized more interference in the image when using either the remote control as the sky tv. Immediately appeared already lists and noises, very uncomfortable for signal, but that was easily solved leaning on IR antenna on the back a coin or metal keychain. Otherwise it is a very good device, I have not had any phone interference, de roteadores ou outros aparelhos e para mi que sempre quis ter sky no meu quarto sem ter que quebrar a… Read more»
Fabio Pinto
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Fabio Pinto

Olá Skooter, sem want to abuse, but you know identify the position of the chavinhas 16 vc combinations tested, because I like to test them to see which is best for me.

Thank you

JORGE MENDES
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JORGE MENDES

I like this product pa adquerir

Rodrigo
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Rodrigo

Good Night Skooter.

I follow your blog for some time.

Is leaving (em R $)as this device?

You sell me the Gadmei?

The crackling in audio Gadmei are very constant and annoying?

Jáderson Oliveira
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Jáderson Oliveira

Bom dia Skooter, I've been reading your blog, I do not quite understand more about the remote control, example: net I have the room and want to transmit the image to the bedroom, This remote control system is that the transmitter has to change channels I receptor net room to room without having to go?, I mean the room has only a tv, and the receiver of the net is in the room, give the room I change the channel, that's right?, grateful for the attention.

HACKTHEPLANET
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HACKTHEPLANET
I got there about the GADMEI 1 month, and yesterday came the PAKITE. The GADMEI works with picture perfect, but conveys much noise, when you put the TV on mute, easily percebi they Ruido. Furthermore, occasionally some subtle cracks appear in the image, But nothing that interferes very. Already PAKITE transmits the audio running smoothly, without any noise, But the picture gets a little drizzled, nothing that an adjustment in the position of the antennas solve, the case of a small distance. In my case I transmit the signal from my digital decoder for approximately NET 8 meters, transversely, with two walls in the way. PAKITE recommend for a short distance, and to a greater distance GADMEI. The manual states that the PAKITE reaches two storeys, but I think not, due to the quality of the signal arriving at my television. In PAKITE manual states that the device transmits on track 2.4 E GHz 5.8 GHz? Someone confirm this information? As I chaveio between the two bands? Recently I saw another similar equipment on the link below, but do not know anyone who took the test. I will not buy for now, pois quero deixar meu cartão de… Read more»
Mario
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Mario

Boa tarde Skooter.

Adquiri um destes aparelhos o modelo PAT-530 5.8GHz Wireless A/V STB Transmitter/Receiver with IR Signal Extension Wire Set (Blue) and did the installation normally as directed by your blog. The problem is that the remote does not work at all, I have picture and sound perfect but control nothing. I have already put antenna wired (433mhz), tested in 2 different locations and any. Have any idea of ​​what can be???

welcome,

Mario.

Alex
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Alex

Good night Skooter. I have a doubt. When I install Pakite'll just have the image on the TV is connected q receptor Pakite? Type assim, q has a tv receiver will run out of sky image? Or I can watch on TV or in two flat q is the recipient of the sky I'll have q keep drawing and placing the cables rca Pakite for Tv? I await your response.

ROOH
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ROOH

It also transmits the hd channels,I have net hd he transmits that signal to another hd tv.

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