A Video Gaming board MSI GeForce RTX 2060 Super 8GB GDRR6 256-bit HDMI/DP G-SYNC Turing Architecture Overclocked Graphics Card (RTX 2060 Super Gaming X) was acquired in US Amazon, and redirected to Brazil through Direct Shipments, for use on my PC, especially to experiment with profound learning (deep learning), Take advantage 2176 CUDA cores that it has, its 8GB memory GDDR6.
In 2014 I showed here in my Blog Skooter Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 760 SC 4GB DisplayPort HDMI DVI-I/DVI-D com Cooler ACX 04G-P4-2768-KR. Six years have passed and she was still the video card from my computer.
This was not a big problem, for I hardly use the PC for gaming. I have over a dozen video game consoles and it is there that I play more. The PC ends up being used mainly for work, even though I possibly use to play emulators (Arcades or as MAME, old DOS games, etc.) and remastered versions of classic acquired in the past that Steam, as Day of the Tentacle, Full Throttle, and Night Trap. But are games that require very little video card.
But for some time now I've been working more with profound learning (deep learning), in particular with the library TensorFlow. I soon learned that GPUs are much faster than CPUs in training deep neural networks. At work I have machines with fast processors, like Intel Core i7-4790K and the Intel Xeon W-2133, but their respective video cards, a NVidia GeForce GTX 970 and a NVidia GeForce GTX 1080 leave these CPUs well back. In tests loosely, a GTX 1080 It came to be 60 ~ 100 times faster than i7-4790K. I have one NVidia Quadro P5000, with performance similar to GTX 1080, despite being older. This type of application benefits greatly from the high parallelism of GPUs.
The problem is that I work at home, and even with the possibility of remote access, I like to have my own local resources available. Unfortunately, GTX 760 already it is not even supported by TensorFlow. It requires a GPU with NVidia CUDA® Compute Capability version 3.5 or superior, and to GTX 760 only supports the version 3.0. Although it was supported, the difference between GPU generations often considerable, so much so that the GTX 1080 It is considerably faster than GTX 970.
I decided it was time to make a upgrade GPU on my machine. A GTX 760 was a board about the time, but today spend too much energy for the performance that delivers. Is for deep learning virtually no more usefulness.
Choice of MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 2060 Super 8GB
The first video card that I found was the NVidia GeForce GTX 1660, which probably has the best relation between cost and benefit currently. But the series has the RTX tensor Colors, which according to NVidia, allow computation using floating point variables 16 bits (FP16), which cuts the training time deep learning in up 50% for the characteristics of 32 bits (FP32). And, behold, at benchmark showing that the RTX 2060 It is faster than a GTX 1080 Ti Kids deep learning convinced me that the RTX 2060 It was the best way for me to follow.
The amount of memory is critical when working with many machine learning techniques, and deep learning is no exception. CPUs have available 32GB or even 64GB of RAM with processors mainstream. With Xeon processors can still go beyond. Mas GPUs mainstream, What are those focused on games (GTX, RTX), today are sold with 4GB to 8GB of RAM. There are signs with more RAM, but only geared for professional use, and they are very very expensive! As I was already focusing my codes in 8GB GTX 1080, a RTX 2060 Super 8GB It seemed the best option.
Among the options EVGA and MSI manufacturers were my preferences. EVGA on account of EVGA GeForce GTX 760 SC, that never gave me any problems. And MSI is also a brand that has been used in the past, also smoothly.
In Brazil the options that eventually appeared were the Gigabyte, with which already had problems, and by Galax, with which I have no experience. Nevertheless, options were rarely appeared, and always unreliable stores. Thus I thought it was better business to buy in US Amazon and redirect to Direct Shipments, because in Amazon there were many options with prompt delivery and others with delivery in a few days. At best the package would not be taxed and would still be a little cheaper to buy in Brazil.
I considered several models in Amazon, mainly from MSI and EVGA, and ended up choosing MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 2060 Super 8GB, mainly because of its many positive reviews, the performance slightly above stock on account of overclock of manufactures, and excellent heat dissipation system, that allows two fans remain off when the board is not being required very, contributing to a quieter environment.
Purchased MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 2060 Super 8GB
The plate was acquired US Amazon in 30/12/2019 for $ $429,99. I paid another $ $33,32 not imposed from California, totaling $ 463,31. With IOF this figure rises to US $ 492,86. The dollar at the close of the card bill was R $ 4,29, so the total price in Reais was R $ 2144,37. It was beyond what I expected because the dollar rose considerably between the date of purchase and invoice closing, due to the COVID-19. In 30/12 the commercial market dollar was around R $ 4,05.
No Brasil, the IRS in Curitiba decided to ignore the declared value and refereed a value of US $ 55,00, converted to R $ 247,42. This generated a R $ tax 148,45. With over R $ 15,00 postal dispatch rate Post, the total was R $ 163,45.
Adding the board price, California tax, import tax, and postal office, we reached R $ 2.277,82. Even with the tax and the rise of the dollar was worth, because at the time I write this article this card is available in Brazil, but R $ 2862.18, in a shop where I do not trust.
Redirect to Direct Shipments
A US Amazon Direct sends to Brazil, but in this case you pay almost the same card value in import and ICMS tax, they send by courier and collect taxes in advance.
Redirecting to Direct Shipments the package comes by USPS and we have guaranteed not need to pay at least the ICMS in states that do not charge for packages coming by the postal service (São Paulo is one of them), only then already it saves about 40% Tax, since GST is applied on product, freight, on import tax and, believe, even about himself. is Brazil…
The import duty may or may not be charged depending on the size and weight of the package, content and declared value, and mood of auditors. This time I had to pay, but it was the first time I paid tax in a US ePacket. And fortunately it was a relatively low value and compensated. Note I've ever had another package sent by ePacket after that (o do MiSTer), which was not taxed. taxed ePackets fortunately are still the exception.
A Direct Shipments He sent me three photos, box sticker, Amazon in the balance housing, and only the product box in the balance, showing the difference weights. Check out:
With the box Amazon the weight was after 4 pounds, which is the limit for e ePacket. Asked to reduce the size of the box, as Amazon often exaggerate and have large boxes with many air mattresses inside. My request was granted and so ordered the ship by ePacket, it weighed 3 pounds and 15 oz. The freight cost $ 48,99, already counting on the service value Direct Shipments.
Unboxing and Installation MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 2060 Super 8GB
The plate arrived well packed, with the sealed original packaging in a USPS box wrapped in plastic, and. Check out the photos and the video of the unboxing and installation:
MSI was well with the economic Gaming GeForce RTX 2060 Super 8GB, just sending a card and some leaflets, including a comic comic. There is no VGA adapters, DVI, or energy, as was common a few years ago.
The board has three DisplayPort outputs (DP) v1.4 and HDMI 2.0b. I am using only a single output DP, where do I connect my monitor, to Dell U2410, of 1920×1200. Although not my focus, a RTX 2060 Super should take account of any current game at this resolution with all settings maxed (i guess), if I decide to get some.
A MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 2060 Super 8GB is not long as models with three fans, but it is thicker, and to be installed in a PCI Express x16 slot 3.0, the two blocks below it slots that are. In my case I had to change the Sound card Creative Sound Blaster ZX to another slot. It was not a problem for me because I only have these two boards, and even stayed with three free and usable slots on my motherboard, if the ASUS Z87-Deluxe, It is a slot x4 e have x16.
The board is also wide, and because of that I had to remove an accessory side fan my office, CoolerMaster HAF X um, serving to direct air. Again, no major disorder, the accessory is optional.
The maximum consumption is 175 In, which is slightly above the 170W EVGA GeForce GTX 760 SC, but in practice I notice that it consumes far less, especially when under low load, It is more economical than its predecessor.
First tests with the MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 2060 Super 8GB
Two things caught my attention immediately to connect the PC to the MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 2060 Super 8GB newly installed. The first is that it has a beautiful lighting RGB. It's not something I make a point, but as the case has an acrylic on side, It is something that is beautiful.
It also draws attention to the fact that the fans are stopped when the GPU is not being very required, in other words, most of the time in the day to day. The PC is very quiet. Even comes a pretty big sticker on the sign explaining that this is normal. MSI calls this technology Zero Frozr. The entire cooling system is called Twin Frozr 7 Thermal Design.
With the system started, I tried to install the utility software from MSI: Dragon Center, MSI Afterburner and MSI Live Update 6. Software is no masterpiece of usability, They are somewhat confused in some cases, and with features that are not very clear.
The Dragon Center It allows enable a “Gaming Mode” which automatically optimizes the board for some supported games. You can also choose a “User Scenario”, where are the options: “Extreme Performance”, “Balanced”, “Silent”, “Creator Mode” and “Customize”, but that changes is clear from one to another.
I ended up leaving in “Extreme Performance”, as yet she remains silent and the clocks low no-load, but I noticed that this option enables the option of “maximum performance” the Windows power settings, and this disables the mode standby automatic. I had to rehabilitate it manually. The “Creator Mode” perhaps most interesting for me, for allegedly optimize the plate for some building applications, as the Adobe, or Vegas, etc. It also enables “maximum performance” no Windows.
The Dragon Center also features a monitor that shows the frequency of clock GPU and memory, as well as usage percentage, temperature, and fan speed in revolutions per minute (RPM) and percentage. The clock varies according to the requirement of the plate, and in my tests the GPU was 300 MHz a 1950 MHz, and memory was 405 MHz a 6801 MHz. The temperature did not exceed 65 C and fans did not exceed 52% and 1800 RPM.
The Dragon Center still has a LAN manager, allowing applications to prioritize, something like a QoS and optimizations to the network card, also including speed tests and signal analysis WiFi. I never use these features.
Por fim, there is a section called Mystic Light, which lets you configure the colors and effects of LEDs, including synchronization options with games. Also not much shifted to it and kept the default setting, showing a color sequence (arc-íris).
The MSI Afterburner It allows you to automatically find the highest settings overclock stable on plate.
I have no patience to stay auditioning, enduring crashes, etc. to do overclock and gain some extra performance, possibly costing stability. But I tested the tool to be able to write this analysis, following MSI's own tutorial. The gain with automatic tool was 210 MHz no clock da GPU. In increased memory 500 MHz manually, as suggested by the tutorial, but I had no patience to get more testing increments.
Note that o Dragon Center also it seems to make some kind of overclock not so “Extreme Performance”, and activate this mode with overclock from the MSI Afterburner enabled PC caught. I chose to remove the MSI Afterburner and just leave Dragon Center.
MSI Live Update 6
The MSI Live Update 6 Czech periodically updates drivers, firmware and utilities. I chose to keep it installed for any firmware updates or utilities. For the drivers I'm using NVidia GeForce Experience, I've used before and which is recommended by MSI own to keep your drivers updated.
I have no current game to properly test the graphics performance of MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 2060 Super 8GB, but I downloaded 3DMark Demo in Steam to give a bit of work to the plate and see if everything is in order. Were 5930 Time points in Spy, being 8064 points awarded for graphics.
To test the performance of MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 2060 Super 8GB in artificial intelligence tasks, used the AI-Benchmark. The results are shown in the table below, which also tested other cards to compare. All tests were performed using Windows 10 and TensorFlow 2.0. For some reason, with TensorFlow 2.1 Benchmark tests screwed on the 13th (NVidia-SPADE), the two machines I tested, so I chose to use the previous version.
|GPU||Device Inference Score||Device Training Score||Device AI Score|
|GeForce GTX 1080 8GB||7118||7680||14798|
|GeForce RTX 2060 Super 8GB (“Creator Mode”)||7786||8870||16656|
|GeForce RTX 2060 Super 8GB (“Extreme Performance”)||7791||8803||16594|
|GeForce RTX 2060 Super 8GB (“Extreme Performance”), Windows Power Settings in “Balanced”||7863||9010||16873|
The results show that GeForce RTX 2060 Super 8GB It is actually faster than the GeForce GTX 1080 8GB in machine learning tasks. On the other hand, the difference between “Creator Mode” and the “Extreme Performance” it is insignificant, and is probably due to other factors, as the other tasks running on the machine.
For some reason it's not showing up on the site US Amazon the tracking information packet from there to the headquarters of Direct Shipments. But the purchase was made in 30/12/2019 and the package was handed in 08/01/2020.
The Direct Shipments to Brazil, these are the tracking information package according to the USPS:
March 12, 2020, 4:34 pm Delivered BRAZIL Your item was delivered in BRAZIL at 4:34 pm on March 12, 2020. March 6, 2020, 4:17 pm Processed through Facility CURITIBA, BRAZIL March 3, 2020, 12:39 pm Held in Customs CURITIBA, BRAZIL
This tracking USPS was much more complete, showing all the steps of the US package and even the arrival in Brazil, which took place on 19/01, well before the advertised in the Post system.
These are the trace information obtained from the Post system:
12/03/2020 16:34 [REMOVED] / SP Object delivered to the recipient 12/03/2020 10:25 [REMOVED] / SP object out for delivery to the recipient 10/03/2020 12:05 INDAIATUBA / SP Objeto encaminhado de Unidade de Tratamento em INDAIATUBA / SP for distribution Unit in [REMOVED] / SP 06/03/2020 16:30 CURITIBA / PR Objeto encaminhado de Unidade de Distribuição em CURITIBA / PR for Treatment Unit in INDAIATUBA / SP 06/03/2020 16:28 CURITIBA / PR finalized Customs supervision 03/03/2020 15:51 CURITIBA / PR Pagamento confirmado Consulte os prazos clicando aqui. 03/03/2020 12:41 CURITIBA / PR Aguardando pagamento Acesse o ambiente Minhas Importações 02/03/2020 21:27 CURITIBA / PR Referred to customs supervision 03/02/2020 11:30 CURITIBA / PR Objeto recebido pelos Correios do Brasil Informar nº do documento para a fiscalização e entrega do seu objeto. Click here My Imports 16/01/2020 07:31 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA / Objeto postado Informar nº do documento para a fiscalização e entrega do seu objeto. Click here My Imports 16/01/2020 07:31 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA / Objeto encaminhado de País em ESTADOS UNIDOS DA AMÉRICA / countries in International treatment unit / BR Informar nº do documento para a fiscalização e entrega do seu objeto. Click here My Imports
Por fim, This is the table-summary of purchase:
|Product Name:||Video Gaming board MSI GeForce RTX 2060 Super 8GB GDRR6 256-bit HDMI/DP G-SYNC Turing Architecture Overclocked Graphics Card (RTX 2060 Super Gaming X)|
|Name Original:||MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 2060 Super 8GB GDRR6 256-bit HDMI/DP G-SYNC Turing Architecture Overclocked Graphics Card (RTX 2060 Super Gaming X)|
|Value:||US$ $429,99 (R$ 1844,66)|
|Current value:||US$ 424,50|
|Payment Method:||Credit Card Mastercard Inter|
|Shipping Type:||Free Shipping|
|Package Home Country:||USA|
|Time in Transit:||
|Declared content:||computer peripheral|
|Type Marked Content:||None|
|Declared Value:||US$ 39.90|
|Taxable Value:||US$ 55,00 (R$ 247,42)|
|Tax Value:||R$ 148,45|
I was pleased with the Video Gaming board MSI GeForce RTX 2060 Super 8GB. It should suit me very well in the training of deep learning algorithms, and still has the potential to spare if I want to play some more recent game, since my monitor has only 1920×1200 pixel resolution.
The purchase on US Amazon just paying off, visto que no Brasil as placas que estavam disponíveis na época eram inferiores e tinham preço maior do que eu paguei, mesmo com o imposto de importação. O Correios e a Receita Federal enrolaram bastante e o pacote acabou demorando mais do que deveria, mas pelo menos o imposto não foi alto.
O serviço da Direct Shipments continua excelente. Produto bem embalado, embalagem discreta, e nada de custos ocultos ou adicionais. O auxílio deles foi fundamental para conseguir enviar o produto por ePacket, pois a placa é pesada e estava quase no limite de 4 pounds. Se tivesse enviado por Priority seria imposto alto na certa.
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